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Subject: HF question from a Non HF reader...I need help
Date Posted: 1/20/2011 8:18 PM ET
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I am not a historical fiction reader as of now but I am interested in quite a few HF books so I see myself maybe becoming one. I have quite a few of Philippa Gregory's books & my question is....should I read them in some sort of order for them to make more sense or does it really not matter?  And are they worth reading? Being that I don't typically read HF I'm only guessing that they are good :)  Here are the ones I have...maybe it will make it easier for you to answer once you see what I have on hand...Thanks in advance :)

The Boleyn Inheritance

The Other Boleyn Girl

The Queen's Fool

The Virgin's Lover

The Constant Princess

The White Queen

Date Posted: 1/20/2011 8:48 PM ET
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Hi Shalya,  At Fantastic Fiction they have books listed in order.  Here is the one for Phillipa Gregory http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/g/philippa-gregory/http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/g/philippa-gregory/

ETA  Oops I meant to say that some of these are stand alone novels,  I have only read one of her novels, she has a tendency to embellish on historical fact a bit to much for my tastes.  But she must have something because she sure has written some popular novels. 

Welcome to the forum!



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Date Posted: 1/20/2011 9:34 PM ET
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Chronologically this is the order

The White Queen

The Constant Princess

The Other Boleyn Girl

The Boleyn Inheritance

The Queen's Fool

The Virgin's Lover

The White Queen was written much later then the other 6.  It's about Elizabeth Woodville (Henry VIII's maternal grandmother).  I don't think they have to be read in order, but I would read The Other Boleyn Girl before the rest in the list.  Just remember it is fiction and Letty is right, PG does tend to embellish. They are easy reading and if you question her "facts" there's always google.



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Date Posted: 1/20/2011 10:35 PM ET
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I agree. I'd read "The Other Boelyn Girl" first. I'd also read her Author's Note first, because she is fast and loose with history.  She does explain where she veers from the historical record in her note though.

Date Posted: 1/21/2011 8:23 AM ET
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I'd agree with the rest and White Queen is very much off on it's own with PG in another direction. She sure doesn't do much in author's notes in this and Red Queen like she used to though...angry

Date Posted: 1/22/2011 10:00 AM ET
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I'm a newbie to hf.  Within the last year and a half.  I like historical accuracy, I also like fiction-so with that said-I have really enjoyed the Gregory's that I've read.  Yes to the embellshments, but I agree-if you want the facts-there's always google.  I haven't read anything in any sort of order-except for starting the White Queen(which was hugely simple 'cause it's the newest). 

Date Posted: 1/22/2011 10:19 AM ET
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Shayla, be prepared....this is how it starts. We have all been there. All of us have our fingers crossed that you will love The White Queen and that your HF addiction will proceed from there! We're really not a PBS thread, we're an addicts support group---welcome to the asylum!

Date Posted: 1/22/2011 10:23 AM ET
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Jan, you aren't a newbie anymore! If you can put up with us for more than 27 minutes, you automatically become a war-hardened, seasoned veteran. Shayla, if you can stick it out for 13 and a half more minutes, you can be a veteran too, lol! :-D

 

I read The White Queen a few weeks ago and ended up enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would, even with the embellishment. I know PG isn't always the most accurate, but she can definitely write a compelling, page-turner of a story. I'll always be grateful to PG...her Wildacre series are the books that made me realize how much I loved historical fiction. I read plenty of H/F before that, but it was just stuff I ran across and books from my grandmother's shelves, Plaidy and Winthrop, but the PG books turned me into a dedicated history and H/F reader and I actively sought out H/F from then on. So, long live PG and her overly dramatic,  embellished books! ;-)

Date Posted: 1/22/2011 10:23 AM ET
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Did anyone give Shayla a link to Deb's newbie post? It's a must read!

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Date Posted: 1/22/2011 3:16 PM ET
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So it sounds like I really don't have to read them in order of publication or chronological order. Also sounds like the books are a bit embellished, but I'm not a history buff so I won't be upset about that I'm just thankful that they sound like they are going to be good stories.  :)

Date Posted: 1/23/2011 10:03 AM ET
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Yay to not being a newbie anymoreyesWhee! 

re Gregory-it depends on which historical family is your most favorite-Plantagents(sp?) or Tudors as to which to start with. The White Queen and The Red Queen concern the earlier time period; the others you have take place in the later period.  Me?  I started as a Tudor girl-but, seriously, Elizabeth Woodinville and Margaret Beaufort are absolutely captivating as historical figures, and Gregory's portrayal has lead me to other authors' take on these two women. 

Date Posted: 1/23/2011 12:46 PM ET
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Shayla, you'll be fine as long as you are aware that PG tends to bend history to her liking, and not expecting an accurate history lesson either. I just cringe when I talk with someone about her and her I have to hear how she really gets her stuff right. I doubt many would complain about her as much if she hadn't put herself all over the web carrying on about her research and knowledge of history.

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Date Posted: 1/23/2011 7:01 PM ET
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I have learned the definition of Historical Fiction in the last year. On the HIstorical Fiction  forum http://www.paperbackswap.com/Happy-New-Year-January-Whatcha/topic/225224/   you will have lots of great suggestions and challenges. My favorites are the Historical Mystery Fiction. If you do not like reading romance, try some of these.

http://www.rennieairth.net/index.htm       John Madden seried

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/s/georges-simenon/       Maigret series

Date Posted: 1/23/2011 10:40 PM ET
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Valli (who will always be AL to me) said :   Did anyone give Shayla a link to Deb's newbie post? It's a must read!

 

I don't know.  But I'd like the link!  Please?

 

Newbie Denise

Date Posted: 1/24/2011 12:35 AM ET
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oops 1 second.

Denise let's try this again. http://www.paperbackswap.com/Advice-HF-Forum-Newbies-Quit/topic/186454/  there you go.



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Date Posted: 1/26/2011 3:46 PM ET
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Thanks, Jerelyn!   I have a cousin named Jerelyn - you wouldn't happen to have moved to Minnesota from California? 

 

Deb - that is brilliant!

 

Denise

Date Posted: 1/26/2011 4:46 PM ET
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Another Jerelyn, it is an unusual name as long as you don't pronounce it Jeri-lyn do you pronounce it  Jerl-yn?  I have never met anyone with my name, I am from the west but not Cali.laugh

Date Posted: 1/26/2011 6:47 PM ET
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She was named after her dad, Jerry and her name is pronounced more like Jer-a-lyn though spelled with the e.    I've only spent about a week with her in our entire lives - so I don't know her well at all, unfortunately.  We are a generation apart in age and I'm on the right coast and she, on the wrong..errr Pacific Coast.

It certainly is an unusual name, but I always liked it! 

Denise