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Topic: Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin, you're 200 years old today!

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Subject: Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin, you're 200 years old today!
Date Posted: 2/12/2009 2:32 PM ET
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This just seemed like the right place to post this.  And this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html

(although, there was a very, very wrong part of me that wanted to post this in the home schoolers' forum)

Date Posted: 2/12/2009 4:01 PM ET
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(although, there was a very, very wrong part of me that wanted to post this in the home schoolers' forum)

Excellent Carolyn!  I have never gone to the homeschoolers forum.  I couldn't take it.  My blood pressure would go through the roof.

 

Date Posted: 2/12/2009 6:44 PM ET
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Yay Darwin!  I have a Darwin fish decal on my bumper, I'll have to brush the dirt off it. 

Has anyone read any Darwin?  We read excerpts in my AP biology class in high school, but I've always meant to read the whole of "Origin of Species".

Date Posted: 2/12/2009 7:16 PM ET
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I've never read the whole thing, although I've read lots of bits and pieces.  It's a total embarrassment, actually.  I really have to.

Have you read Louis Menand's Metaphysical Club, by any chance?  It's really wonderful.

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 12:58 AM ET
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Did you see this poll on evolution: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/11/darwin-200/

Apparently, only 39% of Americans believe in evolution, while 25% of Americans do not.  The remainder said "don't know" or something to that effect.  It's sad that more aren't being taught that evolution is fact, but at least more believe it than do not.

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 9:15 AM ET
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Kari that depresses me so much.  Especially since there's so many misconceptions about it (i.e. no evolution is not linear, no we did not come from monkeys) that even educated people believe.  My college roommate, a psych major and very smart girl, really believed that acquired traits could be inherited.

Date Posted: 2/20/2009 3:20 PM ET
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I love Darwin! I never understood why the majority of Christians can't accept evolution (I'm actually a Christian, but I don't think that means I have to forget I'm educated). I work in an archaeology library, and we have a copy of The Origin of Species, but I have to be honest, I'm not that concerned about reading it. No question that it's extremely important to science, but the language/style is just rough on me. I would be interested in a modern redoing though. Maybe I'm lazy. National Geographic this month was very Darwin-centric. It's pretty awesome- it has a timeline of the history of the theory of evolution and the history of genetics and shows how they line up. Very enlightening. The Galapagos finches were NOT the start of Darwin's theory, his adventures in Patagonia were. Something I found out about his history last semester- Charles' grandfather Erasmus was a scientist who had vague questions about why there were fossils (well, I guess he called them bones) of animals that "never existed." So it ran in the family. How cool is that?
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Date Posted: 2/25/2009 12:45 PM ET
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I just discovered the Spring 2006 issue of the VQR  - Why Darwin is Still Right (and Intelligent Design is Wrong) - on a shelf in my house!  I had completely forgotten I had it.  Yay. 

I am so baffled as to why the theory of evolution is so threatening.  I really, really don't get why, if you believe in Jesus, this is in any way contradicted by natural selection.  It makes me cranky.  When that upsetting poll came out, my friends and I got into a number of conversations about it on facebook, and I learned that they teach evolution in Catholic schools, and the panic is pretty much entirely an American Protestant phenomenon.

It's so weird, but the closest I've ever come to believing in god is when I've been completely gobsmacked by the variety and wonders of the world we actually live in, rather then being lured by stories that ignore the evidence before us.

Date Posted: 2/27/2009 12:45 PM ET
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and I learned that they teach evolution in Catholic schools, and the panic is pretty much entirely an American Protestant phenomenon.

I attended Catholic school from K-12, and never understood the uproar over evolution. We were taught the creation myth in religion class and evolution in science class. When I was young and still considered myself a Christian, it seemed to me that belief in god and belief in evolution were perfectly complementary.

ETA: I remember one of my religion teachers telling us that science and faith cannot ever contradict since they are both products of the same God.



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Date Posted: 2/27/2009 3:54 PM ET
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I listen to several skeptical podcasts, and in one they mentioned the upcoming Vatican Darwin Congress for 2009.  It appears that intelligent design has been deemed "bad science and bad religion", and will be discussed only as a "cultural curiosity".  I was amused. :)