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Subject: Heavy book help w/ shipping?
Date Posted: 4/9/2013 3:36 AM ET
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I'm wondering if there is an option to post heavy books, but let the buyer pay some of the shipping. I had wl a heavy book, but sender did not send it, bec shipping was to expensive.I would have loved to pay extra to recieve that book, but so far I know this is not allowed. Is there any otehr way? I have a heavy book, I'm not posting, bec it will cost so much. Thanks

Date Posted: 4/9/2013 8:37 AM ET
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I don't ususally post heavy book either for the same reason.  Usually I just give heavy books away locally.  If you have heavy books that are wishlisted, though, you can list them in the WL multiples thread (and other threads) in the book bazaar.  Just decide how many have to be in one package to make it worth your while.  Even with large hardcovers I can ship two in one package for $3 usually- so 2 points for $1.50, which is a good deal I think.  If the books are bigger than a pound you can send larger lots, though.

Date Posted: 4/9/2013 12:04 PM ET
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Well, I mail out heavy books occasionally.

Just like I order them occasionally.

After the first pound, Media Mail is only 40ish cents more for each pound after that. I can see how you don't want to stock your whole bookshelf with multi-pounders .... but honestly, a 5 pound book is not even $2 more than a 1 pound book. Unless your budget is so tight that an extra $2 every once in a while is going to break the bank,  doing that once in a while is (I think) a nice thing to do.

Especially if you want to order heavy books in return. Send them out, and other people will post them too. It's karma.

Date Posted: 4/9/2013 1:05 PM ET
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First, let me say that what I'm about to propose *may* not be strictly in line with the rules here.

Again, I'm not sure this is an exact fit with the rules, but it might work in this instance.

 

ETA (04/09/2013 @ 17:59 -  It was never my intention to propose anything that would be potentially illegal. I am therefore retracting my post.



Last Edited on: 4/9/13 5:59 PM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 4/9/2013 2:58 PM ET
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I'm against offering extra "gift" credits for shipping heavy books as I believe it encourages bad behavior on the part of reluctant senders of heavy books. And it's against the rules.

If people don't want to spend what amounts to some extra pocket change to mail a heavy book out once in a while, then they shouldn't list them on their shelves in the first place.

I like to surprise people who have been waiting on those heavy books by posting and shipping them once in a while. People are very grateful when you are willing to ship out a heavy gardening or art book or cook book. And, like I said, since I also order these occasionally, I feel that it is right to mail them out sometimes too.

Date Posted: 4/9/2013 3:38 PM ET
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If no one sent heavy books it would be a sad reading world, indeed.  sad  I'm in the sending big books karma club, but did have a bit of postage shock the first time I did it.  As the others said, you can list it on the wishlist multiples thread.  And if you want to feel better about ordering big books, you can always request a second, smaller book from the sender's bookshelf.  That way they can save on postage and legitimately receive 2 credits for the transaction.

Date Posted: 4/9/2013 4:38 PM ET
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Offering more than 1 credit for a book (other than the 2-credits for audio deal) is against PBS' stated policies, to prevent swaps from turning into auctions.  Sorry.

I'm with Sara in that sending heavy books makes heavy books come your way, via karma.

Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 4/9/2013 5:49 PM ET
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Ed's proposal violates the rules here at PBS, and may even be illegal!  The Help Center says:

Offering to "pay" (or asking a requestor to "pay"--see below) more than "PBS price" for a book is not permitted. 

Why?

  • If the book is Wishlisted, offering more than the PBS "price" for the book may allow members to leapfrog over others in the Wish List for the book. This obviously is not fair.
  • Even if the book is not Wish Listed, a "free market" system could lead to "bidding" for a book, and auctions are NOT permitted on PBS.
  • One reason is that auctions are subject to state laws, and as PBS members belong to various states, this could be illegal.
  • The other reason is that we want all members to have a fair chance to get books on PBS.  Pitting those who have lots of credits to spare against those who don't have a lot of credits at the time goes against the very spirit of PBS--the fair sharing of books. Everybody equal.
Date Posted: 4/9/2013 6:09 PM ET
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"One reason is that auctions are subject to state laws, and as PBS members belong to various states, this could be illegal."

Not to get into it, as I'm sure that PBS has a lawyer or two who has vetted stuff like this... But, I think this statement may not be entirely accurate as written. This statement could lead someone to believe that a site like eBay could be illegal in one or more states, but I have never heard that.

Anyway, I have retracted my orignal post on this topic.

Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 4/9/2013 6:32 PM ET
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I think there is no correlation.  Probably eBay site is set up differently under state laws than a site such as PBS.  Quite probably, business internet sites are subject to different laws and taxes depending on how the site is set up and what it claims to be and to do.

Date Posted: 4/12/2013 6:59 PM ET
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but sender did not send it, bec shipping was to expensive.

Huh.  I hope you reported them to the PTB... they have to actually be able AND WILLING to ship the book, if they post it!

mistie -
Date Posted: 4/13/2013 1:45 PM ET
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but sender did not send it, bec shipping was to expensive.

Firstly, yes, the ender was not operating within th e PBS rules by refusing to mail the book, But, as a work around, you could have ordered another book from their shelf, to reduce the "postage cost per credit" and they then may have been willing to send.