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Subject: I can't help being ticked off by this PM....
Date Posted: 6/10/2011 3:46 PM ET
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"Please let potential swappers know if there is writing inside the book. I wanted to give this book as a gift."

I responded that she should have a DC if she doesn't want any writing in the book at all.  And honestly, it must have been under the dust jacket because I never saw it.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 3:54 PM ET
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Don't let one person's opinion/bad mood ruin your day. 

Sounds as if the book easily met PBS guidelines.  Let it go and don't waste your time on her.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 4:21 PM ET
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 Did you ask for a photo?

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 4:37 PM ET
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I am assuming that you mean that there was writing on the inside cover or flyleaf.  In that case, you are completely right- she would need a RC for that.  I would respond that the book was postable according to PBS rules, and if she wanted something above and beyond that, it is her responsibility to have a RC for it- it is not your responsibility to PM people with every flaw a book has when those things are allowed by PBS.

If you mean writing on text pages, well, that makes a book unpostable, and no one should have to have a RC for that.  And it is true that the textbook exception for in the posting guidelines requires a PM to get the consent of the requester before sending a book with writing.  If she is saying that there is writing on text pages, I would ask for photo proof, as suggested above.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 5:07 PM ET
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Looking for a giftable copy definitely calls for an RC. I can think of a dozen reasons why a book that's acceptable per the guidelines would still be less than ideal as a gift (although personally I've never had anyone look down on a gifted book just because it wasn't brand new).

That having been said, Lesley's right. I'm not saying this information applies to the OP, but in general, if a book has writing on the text pages, it's unpostable. If used in a classroom setting, the Sender should notify the Requestor of the book's condition, and await a response to the effect that said condition is acceptable to the Requestor. If the book doesn't reasonably qualify as a textbook, and without the required PM exchange, it's an RWAP.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 9:25 PM ET
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"If the book doesn't reasonably qualify as a textbook, and without the required PM exchange, it's an RWAP."

I have to slightly disagree with this comment in that ANY book according to the guidelines can be considered a textbook as long as you follow the guidelines and send the PM and wait for a reply.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 10:36 PM ET
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According to TPTB ANY book can be considered a textbook, as long as the rules for a textbook are applied.  It can be a novel or any other type of book.  It does NOT have to be used in a classroom to be considered a textbook. 

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 10:40 PM ET
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It was inside the cover and the book is not a text book.  She has since responded that she didn't know it was allowed and that she should have had an RC.  I feel better.

Date Posted: 6/10/2011 11:30 PM ET
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Ahhh, education after the snark . . . TGIF & ((hugs)) Margaret.

mistie -
Date Posted: 6/11/2011 2:39 PM ET
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Well, I think you have responded either:

1/ it's a used book site so it's OK to post as long as it's readable. if she wants new books go to amazon,barnes & noble etc

or

2/ that's the way you received it from anpother member, so it's ok to post as long as it's readable.

edited to add: people, I'm joking - the OP did it right!!!



Last Edited on: 6/11/11 2:41 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 6/11/2011 3:50 PM ET
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Mistie - I have gotten both of those comments in the past!  I really love it when they send a very damaged book and say that's how they received it!angry

Date Posted: 6/12/2011 2:59 PM ET
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I just received a book with the cover almost completely separated from the binding- I can lift the pages out from the cover!  When I WRAPed it, guess what the response was>>>>wait for it>>>>> Is it READABLE?  Oh, well- my credit was not returned, but at least I got to explain the difference between Readable and Postable.