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Subject: Help me decode this requestor condition! - Resolved
Date Posted: 3/18/2010 7:38 PM ET
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"I am currently replacing my hardback books with the SMALL paperback editions I am not interested in the oversize paperbacks -I will accept any condition except size. I love books. Thanks"

I think this means s/he wants mass markets, not trade paperbacks.  The book in question is Philippa Gregory's The Virgin's Lover, which I'm not sure is even available as a mass market.  I figure I'll say something like: This is a trade paperback edition, which I think is what you mean by "oversize paperback".  Should I mention that that ISBN is the trade paperback edition (the 3 paperback versions have different ISBNs on Amazon) and they should either find a different ISBN or turn off their RCs?  Because the person's just going to get bounced down the FIFO line, leaving confused members and rejected requests in his/her wake.



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Date Posted: 3/18/2010 7:45 PM ET
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I think it would be a friendly gesture to politely tell them they should not wishlist or order books that aren't the edition they actually want.

Date Posted: 3/18/2010 7:54 PM ET
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I also think she wants mass market paperbacks.

I would say something like: my copy with ISBN xxxxxxxxxxxxx is <give dimensions> in size. I'm not sure the book comes in a smaller size.

Subject: all come trade size
Date Posted: 3/18/2010 7:59 PM ET
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I have the whole set of Gregory's royalty series and they all came only in tradesize for paperbacks.

Date Posted: 3/18/2010 8:31 PM ET
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The only Philippa Gregory I've ever seen in MMPB is The Other Boleyn Girl, which I have in MMPB as a movie tie-in edition.

I think it would be appropriate in this case to mention it to her that it is a trade paperback.  Like you said, she's bound to confuse other members if she keeps going down the line. 

Date Posted: 3/18/2010 8:53 PM ET
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Why would anybody even want a mass market edition of a book? I'd rather have trade size.  Mass markets are produced on inferior paper and they fall apart more easier.  Also, fonts are smaller on mass markets.

Date Posted: 3/18/2010 9:05 PM ET
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I have friends who prefer MMPB because they carry them around in their purses and trade paperbacks/hardcovers get heavy for them after awhile.  I have another aquantaince who prefers the smaller size because she doesn't have room in her tiny apartment for many bookshelves and she can fit more books on the shelf she can have if they are smaller. 

Obviously there's enough people who want them to create a market for them, because the publishing houses keep printing them. ;)

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Date Posted: 3/18/2010 10:25 PM ET
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What about this as a reply:  "My copy (ISBN 0743269268) is a trade paperback, 7.9 by 5.2 inches; I believe all editions with this ISBN are this size. I'm not sure this book is available in the smaller mass market paperback size (around 7 by 4 inches), which I think is what you want - and if it is, it would probably be a different ISBN."

I have another aquantaince who prefers the smaller size because she doesn't have room in her tiny apartment for many bookshelves and she can fit more books on the shelf she can have if they are smaller.
Ironically, that's one of the reasons I don't like MMPB; they're so thick they take up far more room on my bookshelves than trade pbs! :)

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 2:35 AM ET
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Ironically, that's one of the reasons I don't like MMPB; they're so thick they take up far more room on my bookshelves than trade pbs! :)

That is funny!  Her bookshelves are short and squatty because they fit underneath the table her TV is on.  So wide isn't a problem, but tall is.  :)  Personally, I prefer the trade pbs as well, but my shelves are tall and very skinny (about 1 foot by 8 feet).  Isn't it wonderful that there is so much variety in shelves to hold our precious books?  There's a size/shape for nearly every situation!


And I think that's a marvelous way to respond to the RC. 

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 7:22 AM ET
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Oh geez...this one belongs in Tome's 'goofy RC' collection. I grant that anyone can have whatever RC they want, but then don't order or wishlist books that are versions other than the ones you want, for heaven's sake! You'd be doing her a great service to gently let her know the problem--I personally don't know if I could be so gentle...dealing with stupid people all day, I figure I shouldn't have to deal with them on my leisure time! Oy....

Cheryl

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 7:42 AM ET
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That sounds great, Danyun!

And this comes back to the other thread about how to make sure you get the size you want (the PBS listings say 'paperback' most of the time...and don't distinguish before Trade or MMPB.) Some members don't realize that some books don't come in every size...some have all 3 (HC, Trade and MMPB) while others just go from HC to MMPB or HC to Trade. I think you would do her a service telling her that she should research first to find out if the book she wants is in MMPB and wish/request for the appropriate ISBN. :)



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Date Posted: 3/19/2010 10:31 AM ET
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There's another size, which I can't remember the name of right off. They're about an inch taller than A MMPB. And they're the reason I quit collecting some of my favorite series and went to ebooks on those. I have adjustable shelves that I've set to MMPB size with no leftover room, and can't fit or re-arrange all my shelves to fit the new sizes. It really pissed me off to find they'd adjusted book sizes in the middle of the series like that, and now they won't match, nor fit on my shelves. (And I've noticed my local UBS had to put up seperate shelves for them, since they won't fit on their paperback shelves either.

I think the new size is ...

Product Dimensions: 7.4 x 4.2 x 1.2 inches

(listed as paperback)

where the MMPB is usually...

Product Dimensions: 6.6 x 3.8 x 1.2 inches

(listed as MMPB)

and tradeback is...

Product Dimensions: 7.8 x 5 x 0.6 inches

(listed as paperback)

For me, I don't like hardbacks, (too hard to hold and transport) and don't like the trade size. I've had too many where the binding glue really doesn't hold up well and pages will tend to fall out. And they're a harder size for me to store.

So for those books that I want that don't fit anymore,  I've gone to Ebooks. Cheaper in some cases, more portable and I don't have shelf or font issues.

I'm going to miss the MMPB size when it's gone though. That's my favorite. But I know the talk over the years is that they're being phased out for the other sizes, as the Baby Boomers have more issues with fonts.

 

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 11:37 AM ET
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Nice reply Danyun :)

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 1:32 PM ET
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If you reject a wish list order due to the RC, do you still stay at the top of the FIFO list? 

I know if you accept a wish list order and then cancel it, you will go to the back of the FIFO lineup. 

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 1:38 PM ET
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If you reject a wish list order due to the RC, do you still stay at the top of the FIFO list? 

It depends on why you decline...

http://www.paperbackswap.com/help/help_item.php?id=256


  • If you click [My Book Does Not Meet Conditions]
    • you will have a chance to type an explanatory message to the requestor
      • this message will be included in an email from PBS telling her that the request has been declined.
      • This message is not for "negotiation" about the book request.
    • If this book is on a Wish List, it will then be offered to the next Wisher
      • If there is no one else  Wishing for it, it will go back to your bookshelf to await another request.
  • If you click , [I Can Not Send This Book For Other Reasons] this is just like a regular book request decline:
    • The book is removed from the sender's bookshelf
    • The requestor's request is passed to the next sender in FIFO, if there is another copy of the book available
    • If there is no other copy of the book available, the book goes onto the requestor's Wish List.



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Date Posted: 3/19/2010 2:43 PM ET
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"I am currently replacing my hardback books with the SMALL paperback editions I am not interested in the oversize paperbacks -I will accept any condition except size. I love books. Thanks"

 

It means she's confused...oh... and she loves books.

I'd decline it. It's too vague, but I get the impression she wants mass market paperbacks. Who in their right mind would want a MMP? LOL.



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Date Posted: 3/19/2010 2:45 PM ET
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You'd be doing her a great service to gently let her know the problem--I personally don't know if I could be so gentle...dealing with stupid people all day, I figure I shouldn't have to deal with them on my leisure time

 

LOL Cheryl. You're crackin' me up.

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Date Posted: 3/19/2010 9:45 PM ET
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Thanks guys, I declined and gave the reason I posted earlier.  Here's hoping the next few requests are a bit more normal. :)

And Cindy, I think the slightly larger mass market size is a "premium" MMPB - read that in another thread hereabouts.

Date Posted: 3/19/2010 10:20 PM ET
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Yes, the "premium" PBs are taller but the same width as regular MMPBs. Someone suggested recently that it was a new type of book, but I have some rather old premium PBs and that disproves the "new style" theory. It seems to actually be quite old. (pre-ISBNs if I recall correctly or at least early if they are pre).