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Subject: Can you help me figure out what religion if any my beliefs are
Date Posted: 6/12/2009 1:34 AM ET
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Okay do here it goes, I know that I have a religion I just don't know what it is called, or at least a religion close to what i believe.  When i was a baby my mother got my baptized Methodist, later on I got myself baptized Lutheran (because a friend asked me to).

Some of my beliefs are: No child should be baptized until they are old enough to know what the religion is and to understand it. I Pray to Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Spirit. I celebrate Christmas and Easter, but I use it as a time to get together with my family. I believe that if you are not cremated you will go to Heaven or Hell because part of your spirit is still bound to your human body. If you are cremated then your spirit is free from your human body and you can be reincarnated. I don't believe in Jesus. I perform spells, use meditation, astral projection, amulets and charms. I believe that you are at all times sending out spiritual energy and that you will get back three times the negative or positive energy that you send out.

I'm hoping that I don't get the normal responses my "friends" give me about my beliefs of "you don't worship God so you must worship Satan and you are going to burn in hell." I hope that there is someone that can help me come close to naming my religion. If there is anything that you would like to know in addition to what I have wrote about my beliefs post on here or PM me and I will tell you. I'm just really tired of being called a Demon by everyone around me, I doubt that knowing my religion would help with that but I would feel better myself if I could find more people with my beliefs or close to my beliefs to talk to.

Thanks for your help

Nikk

 



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Date Posted: 6/12/2009 10:48 AM ET
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I'm not the best informed person on the subject, but it sounds like you're beliefs are predominantly drawn from Wicca with some Hindu influences.

Date Posted: 6/14/2009 9:10 PM ET
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Date Posted: 6/15/2009 2:24 AM ET
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Thanks guys, I'll check out everything suggested.

The quiz said that I was Neo-pagan , New age, mahayana buddhism, and unitarian unicersalism.

I dont know what exactly those are but ill be trying to find books to figure it out. lol

Thanks for your help

Nikki

Date Posted: 6/15/2009 2:25 AM ET
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*edited b/c double post

 



Last Edited on: 6/15/09 2:25 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/16/2009 5:51 PM ET
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Nichelle,

 

Here are some books you might be interested in that may help on your journey.

Raymand Buckland's Complete book of Witchcraft: http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780875420509-Bucklands+Complete+Book+of+Witchcraft+Llewellyns+Practical+Magick

This is a very well known author in the Pagan community. He was one of the first to really get the pagan movement going, by writting books on the topic. Some of the history he presents is debated, but it does give you general ideas that surround Wicca and Witchcraft (two seperate things).

Drawing Down the Moon, by Margot Adler http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780140195361-Drawing+Down+the+Moon+Witches+Druids+GoddessWorshippers+and+Other+Pagans+in+America+Today 

This book is great for those just starting out and trying to get an idea of where they fit in the pagan world. It touches lightly on several different paths, from various branches of paganism. It's GREAT book to read for those trying to find information and direction. I HIGHLY recommend it.

The Grimore of Lady Sheba http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780875420769-The+Grimoire+of+Lady+Sheba+Includes+the+Book+of+Shadows

This is a basic Book of Shadows. Many of these have been printed to date, but I point this one out because it contains the Wiccan Traditional Laws. If you choose a Traditional path of Wicca this would help you get a good start, since many (but not all) of them use some variation of these laws. It also contains some basic knowledge and rituals.

Wicca: A guide for the Solitary Practitioner by Scott Cunningham http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780875421186-Wicca+A+Guide+for+the+Solitary+Practitioner

Living Wicca: A Further Guide for the Solitary Practitioner by Scott Cunningham http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780875421841-Living+Wicca+A+Further+Guide+for+the+Solitary+Practitioner+Llewellyns+Practical+Magick

In fact, I recomend ANYTHING by Scott Cunningham. He is Wiccan, but he is a very eclectic solitary one. As such, no matter which pagan path you finally choose, his philosophies, lessons and ideas will help, especially if you finally choose a mix-and-match eclectic path.

A Grimoire of Shadows by Ed Fitch http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9781567186598-Grimoire+Of+Shadows+Witchcraft+Paganism+Magick

This is another Book of Shadows. Like other BOSs it touches on the basics... but this one also gives you spiritual training exercises as well that will aid you when doing Rituals, spells and such. (Thought Disipline exercises for example)

And of course,

Idiot's Guide to Paganism http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780028642666-The+Complete+Idiots+Guide+to+Paganism

This is a great book that touches on many different aspects of paganism, and the different paths. What makes them a like and different, how they work, what they focus on... and it's fun to read. ;)

 

So, there are some books that might help you get started. If you'd like to talk or have questions that I might be able to answer, feel free to PM me. :)

 

 

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 12:06 PM ET
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Booklover,

Thanks so much I'll check those out.

I went to Borders a couple days ago and asked them if they had anybooks on

"neo-paganism" "New age religion"  "Mahayana Buddhism" or "Unitarian Universalism"

and the woman looks at me like I have 3 heads and goes we only carry Christian and Wiccan in this store, We don't carry anything Satanic, Voodoo, or whatever religion you think those are.

Some people can just be so rude, I went there because their website said they carried it and then she flips out and while I shopped for my other books she followed me like she expected me to drop a whole shelf of books into my purse

Date Posted: 6/22/2009 3:45 AM ET
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You might want to check out the UU (Universalist Unitarian or Unitarian Universalist) Church.  The association's website is http://www.uua.org/.  Basically, UUs believe in the inherent worth and dignity of every person and that we all have the right to form our own religious beliefs.  No two UUs will have exactly the same beliefs.  Many will believe radically different things...and that's perfectly ok.

 

If you're interested in exploring neo-paganism, look for "the spiral dance" by Starhawk.  I'm not much of a neo-pagan any more, but a friend gave me that book and I found it eye-opening.

 

Good luck and have fun with your search.

 



Last Edited on: 6/22/09 3:45 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/24/2009 9:03 AM ET
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I would just add, too, that it really isn't necessary to have a "label" for your beliefs. I don't...my beliefs have evolved over time into something that is pretty much uniquely my own, and I expect that they will continue to evolve as my life experiences change and I see things from new perspectives. I draw some beliefs from several different Pagan religions, Eastern religions, and some possibly out of thin air. LOL

I don't have a name for whatever cobbled together thing by beliefs represent...if pressed, I call myself an eclectic solitary pagan. I suppose I could call myself a Spuddist, but then people might try to follow me...heaven (or wherever) forbid! :-D

Cheryl, Her Almighty Magnificient Benevolent Head Spud, Divine Church of Spuddism :D

Date Posted: 6/24/2009 2:23 PM ET
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Cheryl, I know what you mean bout it not being necessary to have a label but when I get asked what religion I am, I dont know what to say. If I tell them that I dont have a particular religious affiliation behind me I get treated horribley. Also I just had a niece and I want to know as much as I can about every religion that my beliefs come from so that when she is old enough we can talk about it. Her parents put me in charge of guiding her through her religious experience because as they said i have a little bit of everything. The thing is I want to be able to back up my beliefs with what that particular religion believes to be able to give her more information and let her have a better understanding of what each religion is. Does that make any sense?

Date Posted: 7/23/2009 2:00 PM ET
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Hi Nichelle, sure it makes sense! I don't have any qualms about not having a label for myself, but it took me a long time to get to the place where I'm comfortable saying so. I think the biggest thing to tell youngsters who ask about religion is to let them know that it's okay to question and investigate for themselves and point them to resources. I don't think there's any right or wrong answers to questions about stuff like that--well, except for "MY way is the RIGHT way and if you don't believe it, you're going to Hell!" (But i don't hink you'd say that. LOL)

By the way, I noticed a question from you over on the Religion & Spirituality forum from last month (I don't wander into these forums very often!) about Wiccan charms and such, and I did answer that over there, although someone there referred you (and anyone who had questions about various Pagan things, it seems!) to THIS forum. I don't see where you asked that in a thread here unless the title is really different (I was going to copy and paste my answer) so go over there to get some suggestions for books to look into if you are still curious. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond!

Cheryl