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Subject: Need help......KINDLE or NOOK ......thanks to all for your helpful info!
Date Posted: 1/28/2011 7:36 PM ET
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Not sure which to buy!  I've done a little review research but still have concerns & questions.  I'll list a few & if anyone can comment, give advice, likes or dislikes, I would appreciate it! 

1.  Nook-can you buy books only from B&N, Kindle-can you buy only from Amazon?

2.  Can you download library books?

3.  Kindle-can you listen to audiobooks?

4.  Kindle-only for books?  What about games, pics, music, etc

5.  Heard the letters fade off or wear off of the keys on the Kindle????

Any additional info that you may feel helpful in my decision making.  Thanks so much!


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Date Posted: 1/28/2011 9:03 PM ET
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Hmmm, well I only have a Nook so I can only answer those questions :)

At this time, you can't download library books on the Kindle, just the Nook (or other non-Kindle reader).  You can buy books from other places for your Nook, but I'm not sure if you can buy Amazon ebooks for a Nook as I haven't tried.  I've bought books from B&N, Fictionwise, Kobe and other places for my Nook.  Some of them are in PDF format and some are in ADE (Adobe Digital Editions) format, but I can read both fine.

Date Posted: 1/28/2011 9:04 PM ET
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Well, as far as Kindle is concerned . . . I buy most of my books from Amazon but there are other sites that you can purchase from if they are in the right format.  At this time, you cannot "borrow" books from a library on a Kindle but they have recently added "Lend Me" feature.  Kindle does have an audio format.  I have never used it but have heard from others that have that the voice is difficult to listen to.  There are several games that can be played on Kindle (the real bummer is the games are in black and white as is the text).


My Kindle is  a 2nd generation (K2) and I have not had any issues with the letters wearing/fading.  However, I read somewhere that the new graphite model (K3) had that issue but that Amazon had responded promptly to complaints.


Hope this info helps.

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 2:30 AM ET
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Nook has the ability to download Library books BUT check with your library!  Mine only had the WMA audio format.....which made Nook useless to me!  Nook plays MP3!  IF Audiobooks is your thing I suggest a SANSA WMA player!   Nook has had a LOT of complaints....so Beware [I got 2 & Both were broken]  Purchase your Nook from a LOCAL store & return it there IF you have problems.  Customer Service at B&N Sucks & people were complaining that when they returned their New Nooks for repairs they were getting Refurbs back!   Battery life is based on 1 hour reading per day for 10 days [I feel they should just adv 10 Hours....Not say 10 Days!!]  B&N REQUIRES a credit card to use the Nook!!  Even if your going to use Gift cards to buy eBooks!    

Kindles are much Lighter that the Nook!  And you can transfer ePub books to it thru Calibre!  Kindle also plays MP3 format music...so I not sure why it couldnt do an audiobook oin MP3 format!  No Credit Card Needed!!  Battery life is great!  O you can transfer book thru your computer if you dont have WiFi at home .....  Cant do that with Nook! 

I would suggest you go to B&N Forums & Read ALL the complaints!  Cracked colorNooks.... turn page thingy broke!  ETC!  Then got to Amazon Forums!  Yes they have problems too BUT Customer Service is Great & Quickly fixed!  Anyway Read what Real customers are saying about Both Companies Befor you decide! 

BTW You didnt mention Sony!  I dont have no clue about them! BUT Sony eReader on Sale at Best Buy........   So you might want to check it out!! http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+Reader+Pocket+Edition+Digital+Book+-+Silver/1238478.p?id=1218239967224&skuId=1238478&ref=10&loc=01    BTW Sony also does Library Books!  Not sure just eBooks or Audio tho!


http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/NOOK-General-Discussion/bd-p/Nook  http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=sv_kinh_7 



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Date Posted: 1/29/2011 3:52 AM ET
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And you can transfer ePub books to it thru Calibre!

well, not exactly.  if you have an ePub ebook that does not have DRM, you can use Calibre to convert it to the MOBI format and then transfer it to your Kindle.  you can do the same thing with PDF files, although you can also email them to your free Kindle address and amazon will do the converting from PDF for you - and you can download the result for free if you use your computer or WiFi (but there's a charge if you use 3G, so do it one of the other ways).

i have a Kindle, and as already mentioned you can buy books elsewhere - they just have to be DRM free.  if you can buy them in MOBI format, great.  if not, you can buy another format and convert.  [ePub is best for that, PDF is the worst.]  no library books for Kindle. 

you can listen to mp3's on the Kindle, but it only plays them in the order that they're loaded in.  it's really intended as background music while you read.  (there are some basic controls to pause and play.)  so you could probably listen to an mp3 audiobook that way, but i don't know what would happen if you had to stop playing and come back later.  i poked around, but couldn't find much about audiobooks mentioned on the amazon Kindle help.  i don't listen to them, so i'm not very familiar with what's available.  the Kindle does have a text to speech feature, but not all ebooks allow the reading aloud.

i hate to admit it, but so far i probably spend more time playing Sudoku on my Kindle than reading books.  :)  [i expect that to change once my ratio of print to ebooks shifts.]  yes, there's games you can get - a few for free, some you buy.  [i got the EA Sudoku, and i particularly like the feature where i can fill in my own puzzle - like the one from my newspaper - and then play that.  i found the included puzzles somewhat too easy.]  i don't think you can do pictures on the Kindle, and they probably wouldn't look very good in the black & white.  music can play in a limited fashion as mentioned.

i got to try out both the Nook and the Kindle at the store at Best Buy, and for me the Kindle won.  i didn't like the touchscreen on the bottom of the Nook, and the Nook was heavier.  if there was a Barnes and Noble anywhere close to me, i might have gone the other way due to the free reading in store time.  the library book borrowing might have been more of an issue if my library had better offerings, but i only found a small number of books i'd want to borrow anyway - they're still skewed pretty heavily towards audiobooks.

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Date Posted: 1/29/2011 4:01 AM ET
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I have only used the Calibre once...real easy & I dont learn thing quick!!  Anyway went to use it on 2 more books recieved message that Kindle already had the books & Free on their web site LOL 

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 5:18 AM ET
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And BOTH need light to read by at nite!  

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 8:09 AM ET
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 O you can transfer book thru your computer if you dont have WiFi at home .....  Cant do that with Nook!


UH, yes you can!  

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Date Posted: 1/29/2011 8:10 AM ET
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If library books are most important to you, then the kindle might not be the one for you. otherwise I dont see any disadvantages vs a nook (e ink version).

both b&N and amazon have drm on most books, so neither can read the others book formats, but with the agency pricing they both generally have the same prices for the books.  I think amazon still has more availability, but you can use inkmesh.com to check on availability of some books you are interested in.

kindle is on it's 3rd version, nook is on it's first.  I like that kindle is a little more mature.

people who are against drm on principle wont go for either the kindle or the nook, they are usually going for a sony.

Kindle also has international 3G coverage.  they sell the kindle in many other counties.  so if you plan to be out of the country the kindle will allow you to get books wirelessly, I dont think nook does.  There might be an extra charge for this.  i never used so not sure.

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 8:58 AM ET
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I have a Kindle 2 (the one before this latest one) and a Sony 350.  I love my Kindle the most, due to its easy operation, dictionary feature (much easier to access and use than either Nook or my Sony).  However, I bought the Sony because I did want to read library books. 

The letters rubbing off (from my daily reading of the Kindle forums on Amazon) were only on the graphite choice.  Also, I'm assuming that they may have fixed this issue by now.

As far as audiobooks (which is NOT listening to a book through Kindle's text-to-speech function) is possible (although I don't do it) on KIndle.  But, according to the Kindle forums, it uses a lot of space.  I prefer to listen to audiobooks on my Zune (mp3 player). Easier to attach to me and use earphones while I move around the house or yard.

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 3:25 PM ET
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Even if your local library doesn't have ebooks for lending, there are other libraries you can use.  There's a thread in this forum somewhere about it.

I decided I didn't need or want wifi or 3G access with my ereader.  I went with the Sony.  Initially, I got a Pocket Edition.  If you just want to read ebooks with no fancy extras, then the Pocket Edition is perfect for you.  I upgraded to a Touch Edition only because I found a great deal on a refurbished one.  The Touch will also do music and you can put pictures on there and write notes and has a built in dictionary.  I have yet to try out any of the extra features.

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 5:03 PM ET
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Beth....then I guess that was another thing on the 2 nooks I had that was Broke!  Because neither one did transfers of ebooks!  Of course I had the WiFi only version.....        What Ever I post on here [or else where]  it the WiFi I am talking about!! 

Date Posted: 1/29/2011 8:10 PM ET
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"And BOTH need light to read by at nite!"

My NOOKcolor has an adjustable backlite.  I'm fairly new to eReaders & it was DH who did the research before buying me the Nook for Christmas.  Here are my thoughts my NOOKcolor (I'm differentiating here because there does seem to be a difference in features between NOOK and NOOKcolor) (Also, some of these features may be the same in the Kindle):

Ease of Use - Whether downloading freebies, .99 centers, or full priced ebooks, click & they're there.  And I've already participated in 2 Nook swap games here on PBS & borrowed/loaned the books with ease.  WiFi connected the first time without any fuss.  Menu options are intuitive and easy to navigate.

I can read in bed with the lamp on to bother DH as the NOOKcolor is backlit (easily adjusts to whatever your preference is).

The battery life is fantastic!  Mine seems to last about a week, using it most everyday.

I like the touchscreen

I like the Bookshelf viewing options which allow for lists of titles, small cover pics with title, large cover pics, etc.  Perusing my bookshelf is much more satisfying to me when I can see the book covers in their full glory.

I have a local B & N with a resident NOOK-expert onsite.  (This is who DH quized while researching the purchase.)  Would be a piece of cake to get help if I ever had any trouble or questions. Haven't needed him  ;)  Listen, I adore Amazon's customer service from my few contacts with them and I've never had to contact B&N's CS so I cannot speak to whether they're any good or not, but with a guru right onsite, how hard could it be to get a resolution?

I have Rheumatoid Arthritis which is pretty bad in my hands, yet the Nook weight and size work just fine for me.  I tend to prop it in my lap when at home or on the tabletop if reading on my lunch hour.

I'm signed up with the Free Library of Philadelphia to get library ebooks and audiobooks.  The sound on my NOOKcolor is fantastic & I could easily listen to my audiobooks on it (I currently use my iPhone connected to my car stereo).

Jill, I don't think you can go wrong with either a Kindle or a Nook, it'll just depend on which uses are the most important to you.  DH had his heart set on a color screen so that he could read magazines in color on it, for instance.  I wanted to be able to get library books easily (most are ePub format at my local libraries).  Good luck & try them both out, in person, before you buy!

ETA - You asked about purchasing books.  I've bought & found freebies through Inkmesh & Smashwords, not just through B&N.  I play with the crossword puzzles & suduku quite a lot.  Don't know about other games.

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Date Posted: 1/29/2011 8:46 PM ET
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I really hate when people spread misinformation!!! 

Date Posted: 1/30/2011 7:11 PM ET
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Thanks for all of the input.  Very informative info!  Now decision time for me!

Date Posted: 1/31/2011 3:21 AM ET
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Just wanted to add input from a newbie ;)  I got my Nook today and it's awesome.  It was really easy to set up.  I charged it.  It took much less time than the 3 1/2 hours my booklet said.

It was easy to get Wifi through our Netgear router.

I had been collecting free books for about a month, so once I registered, I was able to access that library.

It didn't take me much time to figure out how to select books and start reading them.  I was even able to transfer books from my Nook for PC (that were not B&N books) and transfer them too.

I was wavering between the Kindle, the Nook, and the Nook Color.  I decided not to get the Kindle because I was told you can't change the battery and that Kindle book format can only be read on a Kindle.  I decided against the Nook Color since it doesn't have the special e-ink and is more like reading from a computer screen.

Hope you are happy with whatever ereader you choose!

Date Posted: 1/31/2011 4:07 AM ET
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Hope you are happy with whatever ereader you choose! 

I~~~ 2nd thatyes