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Subject: Need help on posting a book
Date Posted: 11/5/2011 12:46 PM ET
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I want to post a book but it's 10 digit ISBN number is not showing up and the 13 ISBN number shows up as another book. 

10 digit ISBN: 0965006439

13 digit ISBN: 9780965006439

When I search for this book I get two other books with different ISBN numbers but it's the same book and I would post my book from there but they say if I have a different ISBN then I have to manually put it in.  Does it make much difference if I just post it from there even thouh it's the same book but a different ISBN number.

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 12:55 PM ET
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You cannot post a book to a different ISBN number. Title, Author, ISBN, and binding Type have to match. If any of those don't match, then you need to post it as a book without an ISBN. If you post it to another ISBN listing, the receiver can mark it as a problem - wrong book and you would need to return their credit for sending them the wrong book and you'd be out the book, postage and credit so you don't want to just use the other ISBNs.

Can you look at the publishing page of your book to see if there is a misprint of the 13 digit number on your book? The ISBNs you have entered cannot be the 10 and 13 digit ISBNs for a book, the last digit on the 13 is a check digit and it would NOT match the last digit on the 10. Removing the first 3 digits on the 13 does not give you the 10 digit number and conversely adding 978 to the 10 digit doesn't give you the 13.

Publishing companies do reuse ISBNs so it is possible that your book's ISBN was used first by another book that is already listed in the system by it. If that is the case, your book can only be listed as a book without an ISBN under a PBS generated number.



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Date Posted: 11/5/2011 2:14 PM ET
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What Melanie said, have you checked the publishing page to see if the ISBN's are the same?  Because this looks like a printing error to me, the 10 and 13 should not be identical numbers....the add sum would be incorrect.  Not that I totally understand what that means, but IIRC the last digits should be different from one another.  Take a peek at your own wishlist, none on mine have the last number the same of both the 10 and 13.

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 2:36 PM ET
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The only ISBN numbers are the one's on theback of the book. There's not a lot of information on the publishing page.

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 3:40 PM ET
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Googling the 13-digit ISBN, it looks as if two books may have been published with this ISBN. 

1) A Millennium Primer the Old Farmers Almanac (our listing here)

and

2) Secret Windows by Stephen King

 

Normally your only choice would be to post the book using the option for posting a book without an ISBN on the Post Books page.  The help center says:

 

Problem: the ISBN brings up a Listing Preview showing a totally different book than the one you have:

Explanation: This happens when publishers assign ISBNs to more than one title.  

 

On PBS, only one book listing can be attached to each ISBN. The one you are seeing on the listing preview is the one attached to that ISBN at PBS.

Solution: You will need to post this book with a customized listing for the book, using the Post Books without an ISBN link on the Post Books page.

 

But since the Almanac currently has no copies posted and nobody on the wish list, you do have another option.

You could tell the Admin Team that you want to post the book and ask them if they would be willing to change the ISBN listing to your book's title.  If you want to go that route, PM me and I'll walk you through what to do. 

 

 



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Date Posted: 11/6/2011 7:24 AM ET
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Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 11/6/2011 10:42 AM ET
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Julie -- The site admins will not change the title on the listing if the book has been swapped in the past, for exactly the reasons you state. The title would change everywhere that ISBN appears on the site, so it would also screw up the transaction archives for past swaps.

There's no way for us to see if there's ever been a swap before though. We can only see if the book is currently on a shelf or on a wish list. If it is, then there's no point in asking for the title to be changed. If it's not (which Patty points out is the case here), then we can ask and the admin team can do the research to see if it can be changed or not.

Date Posted: 11/6/2011 1:25 PM ET
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The Secret Windows book shows this info on Amazon.  The 10-digit number you gave doesn't appear to be the ISBN number, but the ASIN number.

Since this is a book club edition, it may be harder to find, but see if any of these numbers show on your book:

  • Hardcover
  • Publisher: Book of the Month Club; Book Club (BCE/BOMC) edition (2000)
  • ISBN-10: 0739480316
  • ISBN-13: 978-0739480311
  • ASIN: 0965006439
Date Posted: 11/6/2011 2:20 PM ET
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Interesting Shelia.  Could be a typo then, where they used the ASIN instead of ISBN number.   The possibility rises when you consider that somebody merely added the 978 to the ASIN, as it shows a lack of knowledge regarding ISBN and check sums.

 



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