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Subject: Need help on RC... Does this make sense?
Date Posted: 8/15/2013 8:25 AM ET
Member Since: 1/3/2007
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I am so discouraged because I just lost another WL offer due to my RC. The sender responded "does not meet criteria" and commented "This book is a paperback".

Wondering if you all would mind reading over my RC text (below) and offering suggestions? Is this unclear? Are my instructions inaccurate? Do I sound prissy? HELP!

I don't want to turn my RCs off/on for individual books because, to my understanding, then I would not be able to use auto request on the books where RCs are turned off.

Thanks, Bev


If your book is hardcover fiction: must include intact dust jacket, if originally equipped with one. Small tears and surface wear are OK.

If your book is not hardcover fiction - for example, if it is a cookbook or a paperback novel - then there are no requestor conditions, and you should select the "Meets Requestor Conditions" button. If this is confusing at all, please go to Community - Discussion Forums - Questions about Paperback Swap and they will be happy to help you.

I promise I am not super picky -- I just like to see the cover art on my novels. Thanks in advance for taking this extra step!  --Bev

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 9:20 AM ET
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It makes sense to me. You may have just gotten a member who does not send to anyone with an RC and felt the need to make an excuse other than simply stating they do not accept requests with RCs attached.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 9:45 AM ET
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It makes sense, but your RC does requite a tiny bit of thought which some people just aren't going to bother with. I think you are going to be turned down occasionally, but I don't really see a way around it.

ETA - I would also leave out the part where you suggest people visit this forum. And include a thank you. But, honestly, I think only turning your RC on when it applies is the best bet.

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Date Posted: 8/15/2013 11:16 AM ET
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To my understanding, I can't have auto request on and also turn the RC off for an individual book.. Is that correct?

Because I agree, caviglia, turning off the RC where it doesn't apply is the best solution. Except I miss more books from not responding to a WL offer fast enough than I do from RC false negatives.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 11:42 AM ET
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Personally, I'd keep it short and sweet.  "Please include dust covers for hardback books. Thanks!" As a sender, I'm not going to go to the forums for further information, like:  "What if it's nonfiction?"  "What does she mean by intact?"  "What constitutes a small tear and surface wear?"

I'd be one of the people who decline on your RC as it stands.  If it's a wishlist book, there will be other people wanting it who don't ask me to jump through hoops to accept.  (In honesty, though, I pass on most RC's anyway.)

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 11:59 AM ET
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Yeah, BookwormKath, that's where I started from. Every time I have problems I add a little more detail. Sigh....

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 12:41 PM ET
Member Since: 10/22/2009
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I used to have a request that hardcovers include dust jackets--like you Beverly, I like the cover art.

I ended up just deleting it though--this was quite awhile ago.  I've received several hardcovers since then (probably over 100) and only one came without a dust jacket.  And since it was a book that I was going to swap as soon as I read it, it wasn't a big deal.  Can't promise you'll have the same luck as me if you try this, but I do think the overwhelming majority of hardcovers sent here do come with dust jackets.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 1:02 PM ET
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I would just to stick to a RC that says hardcovers must have dust jackets because the rules say that if there is RC for wanted the dust jacket than the dust jacket must meat cover condition requirements.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 1:08 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
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Here is my RC, and I will say it hardly ever gets turned down, and usually only if the book doesn't have a dustjacket. (I used to get that "this book is paperback" until I added the lines about paperback books to it). I don't turn it on and off, that's way too much work. if I were you I would remove from your RC  the stuff about visiting the forums and the stuff about cookbooks.


If the book is hardcover, I would like it to have the dustjacket. If the dustjacket is old, worn, or torn, this is OK.

If the book is a hardcover and has an illustrated cover but not a dustjacket, this is OK.

If the book is paperback, I have no special conditions.

Thanks very much!

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Date Posted: 8/15/2013 1:35 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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It sounds ok, but there is a little bit more information than needed and you may get turn downs just because people don't want to read it all. I didn't really have many problems with my DJ RC, then I got a couple of newer members turning it down because they had a paperback book so this is what mine says and I haven't had any issues, I've only had smoking turn downs and 1 holier-than-thou person.

Due to allergies, I am unable to receive books that are currently in a smoking environment.

If I ordered a book listed as a paperback or audio in the system, I have no other conditions. I can't wait to read it :) If I ordered a 2000 or newer Hardcover, please include dust jacket. All older hardcovers are okay if there is no dust jacket.

Thank you for this offer. Happy Swapping!

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 1:36 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Personally I would put the part about having no conditions for paperbacks first.  Might cut down on the people with paperbacks declining with the "my book is a paperback" excuse. 

I would also leave out the part about going to the forums to ask if htey have questions. If I can't clearly understand someone's RC, I am not going to do extra work to ask questions to figure it out. Especially if it's a WL book and the next person will probably have no RC at all. You saying "if this is confusing at all" implies that it is indeed confusing to some people.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 3:37 PM ET
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For hardcovers I ask for dustcovers, but then I add this..........

For paperbacks I have no conditions.

Date Posted: 8/15/2013 8:32 PM ET
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Your requestor condition is too long.  Plus, how am I supposed to know if a book was originally equipped with a dust jacket?  No one is going to bother to try to figure out your RC on a discussion forum.

The other suggestions are good.  Lead with the fact that you don't have any RC on paperbacks or cookbooks.

Then ask for the dust jacket on all other hardbacks.

Date Posted: 8/16/2013 1:20 AM ET
Member Since: 8/26/2006
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One option, instead of sending people to the forums, is to tell them they can contact you if they need to by going to the "member directory" (located on the Community menu) and searching for the nickname "bevychap".


In my opinion, it's better to have an RC that's so clear that there's no need for a PM, and many members will decline an RC rather than PMing, but if you include your PBS nickname in your RC, at least they can contact you if they want to.