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Subject: Need help wording a decline of a RC....
Date Posted: 8/23/2009 1:19 PM ET
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Book requested from me today with a RC that they do not want to receive books in shabby condition. The book more than meets PBS posting guidelines but it has obviously been read by many people (the PBS history indicates at least four but I would say there were probably more than that along the way). Is it wrong that I don't want to risk a RWAP over another person's interpretation of the word "shabby"? How would you go about wording your decline response?
Date Posted: 8/23/2009 1:22 PM ET
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I am unsure if my book meets your conditions therefore I decline.

I am not into teaching others what they should or should not say in their RC's.  That's just me.

Date Posted: 8/23/2009 1:24 PM ET
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"I am unsure if my book meets your conditions therefore I decline" That's a great way to word it. My brain just wasn't working too well this morning :)
Date Posted: 8/23/2009 1:33 PM ET
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I generally write something like "condition too subjective."

Date Posted: 8/23/2009 5:00 PM ET
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depends on how hungry you are for the credit. above suggestions are great but close off contact. is the book WL?

Since "shabby" is subjective, I don't want to risk sending you a book with which you are unhappy.

<If hungry for credit: My book definitely meets PBS conditions and is from a smoke / pet free home. I wrap my books in plastic  (if any of this is true) If you wish to order this book from me with a modified or deleted RC, my PBS username is ... >

good luck.

 

Date Posted: 8/23/2009 5:01 PM ET
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I agree with Cozi - to the point

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 8/23/2009 5:07 PM ET
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I've had people decline with no reason at all. 

If you want to send something Cozi had a a very nice reply.

Date Posted: 8/23/2009 6:21 PM ET
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"I am unsure if my book meets your conditions therefore I decline.

I am not into teaching others what they should or should not say in their RC's.  That's just me."

 

I like the challenge of helping people come up with short, concise, RCs. The technical writer in me likes to see how few words can be used.

That said, Cozi's response is clear and too the point. My version more wordy, but it explains why I am declining.

"I am not 100% sure that I can meet your request conditions (shabby = subjective term), therefore, with regrets, I am declining your request."



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Date Posted: 8/23/2009 7:16 PM ET
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"I know this book has had at least 4 owners so I would not wish to risk you being unhappy with the condition."

Date Posted: 8/24/2009 9:16 AM ET
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I would just say, "Although it's still postable, the book has a lot of wear; it looks like it's been read many times."



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Date Posted: 8/24/2009 4:11 PM ET
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depends on how hungry you are for the credit. above suggestions are great but close off contact. is the book WL?

Since "shabby" is subjective, I don't want to risk sending you a book with which you are unhappy.

<If hungry for credit: My book definitely meets PBS conditions and is from a smoke / pet free home. I wrap my books in plastic  (if any of this is true) If you wish to order this book from me with a modified or deleted RC, my PBS username is ... >

Sophia, you probably aren't aware, but once you have declined a request the declined member cannot request that book from you -- the system will not allow it, even if it is the only copy available.

Date Posted: 8/24/2009 4:29 PM ET
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I thought they'd changed that--that you could now turn off your RCs & re-request.  I could be wrong--I have exactly once used an RC so I don't have direct experience.

Date Posted: 8/24/2009 5:14 PM ET
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You are correct Kayote, a person can now request a book that they'd previously had their RCs turned down on. They changed that a while ago.

Date Posted: 8/25/2009 10:03 AM ET
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I would have declined with a "while my book meets PBS guidelines, it is a used book and "shabby" is too vague of a requirement".

Date Posted: 8/25/2009 5:48 PM ET
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I think you all are much more polite then I am, and Bless you for it.  I stopped participating in PBS because of the sheer fussiness of the members.  I posted 10 books and 9 of those books had fussy requirements.  I don't mean no pet household or non-smoking - I understand allergies and totally support their needs.  What I don't get is the request above or the request that drove me away from PBS for 6 months:  plastic wrap with specific instructions on how to tape the plastic, then bubble wrap with specific instruction on how to tape the bubble wrap and then a specific size envelope with specific instructions on how to tape.  I said that was it, I declined the request, removed all my books from the bookshelf and took them to Goodwill and stayed away.  I am presently recovering from surgery and thought I might try PBS again so this past weekend I posted 33 books and had 9 books to mail and 17 books on hold.  I've accepted a overseas military request, and non- smoking request and no pet request but turned down a condition request and a plastic wrap request. 

All of my books are in excellent condition and as long as they meet the PBS requirements, they are mailable. 

I do not send to requests such as this because the requestors do not meet PBS standards.

 

Date Posted: 8/25/2009 6:23 PM ET
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Welcome back, Susan

Just decline those picky-to-you RCs and get back to swapping, it's still loads of fun. Don't let the picky-pickies get to you anymore.  : )

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 7:57 PM ET
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<Rant On>

Seriously - why do I have to give an explanation as to why I am declining Requestor Conditions??? Either my book doesn't meet the conditions, or I don't want to take the chance that my book doesn't meet the conditions. 

 

I just declined a book request because I'm iffy about the RC's - I gave no explanation (just some random keystrokes to get by the explanation requirement) - and now I've gotten 2 PM's from the requestor demanding to know why I didn't accept their book request.   I'm feeling harassed.

 

<Rant Off>

 

 

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 8:03 PM ET
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I think if you just spacebar in the box, it'll accept it as an "explanation." And it's possible that the requestor is just curious. My RC's ask for a decline if there is foxing on the pages. Someone with the only copy of the book on PBS declined it saying that there was foxing -- I decided I really REALLY wanted the book, so I re-requested with my RCs turned off. When I got the book, there was ZERO foxing at all and was in perfectly good condition.

 

Nancy, you could be holding onto a rare book & the requestor may be willing to accept it, despite whatever it says on their RCs.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 9:46 PM ET
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Ah, but not everyone knows what foxing is.   Sometimes it only shows up under certain lights.  And some folks turn down any RC.

I'm fine with folks turning down my RC.  That is what it is there for.   And I'd report the person who is asking why you turned down the RCs, Nancy.  Twice?  Argh.  It is suppose to be a guilt free experience.  They can always ask for the book without the RC.  I just ask that any person saying no is polite. 



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Date Posted: 8/29/2009 11:19 PM ET
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You probably wouldn't get the PMs if you just put an explination in instead of leaving it blank.  It only takes a minute and i might help them revise their RCS if they are too vague or picky sounding.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 11:28 PM ET
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Well, if you typed enough random keystrokes it might seem like an adult word ... or it just seemed impolite to the person with the RC.

Date Posted: 8/29/2009 11:59 PM ET
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I hope I'm not sounding dumb, but what is foxing? I'd like to know in case someone asks this in a RC for one of my books.

Thanks

Date Posted: 8/30/2009 12:09 AM ET
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxing

On older types of paper, it was appear as if parts of it are being stained as it ages.

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 8/30/2009 1:50 PM ET
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When I get an RC that's picky or vague I just hit I cannot mail this book.  I've never offered an explanation and no one has ever PM'd like they did Nancy.  I think I'd be contacting PBS about that.

Date Posted: 8/30/2009 2:53 PM ET
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but what is foxing? I'd like to know in case someone asks this in a RC for one of my books.

I don't think your question dumb at all.   Here is a thread that it was discussed and pictures were supplied.  I think the 3rd and 7th post will have links of pictures with foxing.   It is a brown/rust looking stains.  The link also explains why it happens. 

Is this foxing?