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Subject: How does Ebookfling work?
Date Posted: 5/12/2011 9:55 PM ET
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Okay, since it seems to be a pain in the butt to exchange lists of what lend me books I have (without typing them all up), I decided to post a couple to ebookfling.com.  I know a couple of people here are members.  How exactly does it work?  Will I get an email when a book on my list is requested?  Then how do you "fling" it?

Thanks!

 

Date Posted: 5/13/2011 12:59 AM ET
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When you get a email requesting your book....  Follow the Links!  Withing in 2-3 steps they get the book You get the cr!  So far I sent 4 .... recieved 0  UGH  they just dont have anything I want! 

Think of it like PBS  Without wrapping & Shipping costs ... No Trips to PO  LOL



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Date Posted: 5/13/2011 3:29 PM ET
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Book swaps are Not up to eFling they are up to the Publishers!  Books I got Free NOW Cost.  So anyone wanting to read what was last yrs freebies now have to pay.   So with fling they can just borrow it to read.  Of all the books I purchased only 4 were lendable of them I lent out 2.    The other 2 were freebies when I got them....Now cost $5.99!!  Dont get discouraged.  & Its not like the books will go anywhere anyway.   So its a nice surprise when they are requested.   I buy books for me!  Lending tho nice is secondary.  Crs are a great way to keep track.  Hopefully soon menbers will be able to sell crs they earn.  I have 10 total.  6 Given to me by the site at different times!!  I Not purchased any crs!     



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Date Posted: 5/13/2011 6:47 PM ET
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Its a new site offering cr for sale to get the ball rolling not bad ...  Like this site they need to make money for upkeep etc.  When it 1st started crs were 99 cents.   But guess since the site has Gave me 6 crs...  Well I cant complain!   Hoping as the site grows I start finding books I like to read.   There are tons of sites that dont use crs.  And a Yahoo group for lenders that are also PBS folks.  Guess you could list them in a thread on PBS...  Tho I did & got nasty PMs for doing it!  No I wasnt asking for anything for them!  Just trying to be kind!

Date Posted: 5/13/2011 8:19 PM ET
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Its a new site offering cr for sale to get the ball rolling not bad ...  Like this site they need to make money for upkeep etc.

Other sites are doing it with no membership fees, no selling of credits. They make their money by selling ad space on their site.

The probem with selling credits for what members are supposed to give out for free is that it means there can be more credits than books. Here, the credit money doesn't go to support the site. Credit money has to be used to put books into the system or put aside to cover the credit with a book in some way. The site owners explained this when it opened, because people thought they were making money on the credits when they weren't. The other kiosk items and other memberships (like BOB) do go toward supporting the site. Just not the credit sales.

But if the site isn't buying books to loan out with the credit money they get, then there's no guarentee that anyone who spends money on a credit will ever get a book for it. For one, they can't guarentee that anyone will post the books people want to spend their credits on. Plus, Ebookfling can't control and have no say in the market itself. If Amazon quits the loan program, or the publishers pull out, then there's nothing to give away. (And I've heard that some of the disapearing loans were because Tor/McMillan pulled out of the loan programs on all their books.)

So, is Ebookfling going to have money put away to get people a loan, somehow, if Amazon can't keep the program going? Or will they just take the money and disapear as well?

I'll take my chances on the free sites. I've gotten plenty of trades with them, and still have over a hundred to trade out. If it all ends suddenly, I won't have lost anything but a chance at a loan someone else was giving out at no cost to themselves. And no one made any money off of me except for putting adds on a web site. That I'm used to.

 

Date Posted: 5/13/2011 9:34 PM ET
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Since I'm new to lending, I haven't made up my mind on what the best sites are.  I think with all of them you take chances.  And, with a new site like ebookfling.com I would suspect that at first the amount of books available would be low (just like PBS was when it got started)

I would also have questions about the free sites.  Since webhosting, maintaining a database, servers, etc., cost quite a bit of money, will they get enough ad revenue to sustain their sites?

I don't want to hold on to my LendMe books.  I've only had a Nook since January.  Already I've seen the LendMe status of some of my books disappear.  I guess it's a matter of finding the right fit.

 

Date Posted: 5/13/2011 9:36 PM ET
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I signed up for ebookfling and so far haven't had any luck.

 

The first annoyance is that it does not show all the books I add under My Books.  But if I go to the book description, it shows up as "Owned".  So I can't delete the books that I no longer can't lend or don't want to lend.  And I don't even know if those are officially listed in their lending system or not.

 

Their help pages are not helpful at all.  And when I contacted them about the missing books they told me to make sure I had set it to show all books, which I had from the beginning.  When I responded back saying that, they never answered back.  So their help is less than helpful.

 

I also wonder whether there's much flinging going on if you don't buy credits.  You can't order a book without getting a credit first (unlike PBS where there were startup credits).  And you can't get a credit unless someone orders a book from you or you buy a credit.  And the other person can't get a book from you without buying a credit or fulfilling someone's order.  And it goes on and on and on.  I guess they like it that way to "encourage" people to buy credits.

 

Plus, as others have mentioned, the availability is extremely limited.

 

So, so far I'm less than thrilled with ebookfling because it hasn't worked for me.

Date Posted: 5/13/2011 11:35 PM ET
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Otherwise, you might want to wait and hold those tight since you can only trade them twice.

Actually, you can only lend them once.

ETA- I have flung 4 books and have borrowed 6. 



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Date Posted: 5/15/2011 1:42 AM ET
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I haven't flinged anything yet, but I am still hopeful maybe someday.  There's about 3 books I want to borrow, and I have 2 credits, I'm just trying to get through a few other books first, since there's the 14 day time limit.  I signed up to ebookfling early enough that they granted me the 2 credits as an apology for some site issue or other, so I haven't invested anything at all in the site.  When I use up my two credits and don't get requests to fling books, I'm perfectly fine with that.  It's no money out of my pocket right now, so whatever happens is fine with me.  :)

Date Posted: 5/15/2011 2:28 AM ET
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I thought I got 1 credit for signing up.  I have a credit and haven't done anything to get it.  Unless it was for entering their contest for the iPAD.

Date Posted: 5/15/2011 6:13 PM ET
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I recently reviewed eBookFling.com for the site I write for, and discovered something else that hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread. Be very careful with how many credits you accumulate, because they expire exactly 1 year from the date you earned it or from the date you purchased it or received it as a gift. There is no way that I have found to see when exactly you earned that credit, unless you keep track of each and every borrow request email. 

I agree that the selection is very limited; I've only found a few books that I am interested in borrowing. I posted all of my books that are lendable because I didn't have much luck finding anyone in the PBS groups that didn't already have them (many are freebies), and as soon as I entered one of the books in, it was requested within minutes. 

I've loaned out 4 books and borrowed only 1. Of the 4 books I've loaned, 2 were purchases and the other 2 were freebies.