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Subject: How long should I wait after a request b/f I cancel the order?
Date Posted: 12/2/2009 6:28 PM ET
Member Since: 11/28/2009
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I mean, it's been 6 and a half minutes . . . Don't they just sit there waiting for me to use my very first book credit??? ; )



Last Edited on: 12/2/09 6:30 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 12/2/2009 6:30 PM ET
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The system will automatically move your request to the next person in line if the first person does not respond in 5 days.  If you cancel and request the book again, it will go to the same nonresponder.  It stinks, but it's best to wait it out.


eta: okay, with your edit - never mind!  hee. :)



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Date Posted: 12/2/2009 6:32 PM ET
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Funny.

You know some people do have lives outside PBS. I'm not one of them but I hear they exist.



Last Edited on: 12/2/09 6:33 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 12/2/2009 7:28 PM ET
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The system will automatically move your request to the next person in line if the first person does not respond in 5 days.

This is one of the reasons why I would like to see this site list the first five copies of a book that is in the queue.  That way if someone doesn't respond, you can cancel the order and ask for it from a different seller.  The other reason is that having five copies available makes five bookshelves available to the person who is ordering the book.  I like to order more books from the same seller, but thus far the bookshelves of the people from whom I am getting a particular book have all been uninteresting to me.  I would like to have the ability to buy from a chosen seller rather than the first one on the list.

Date Posted: 12/2/2009 7:50 PM ET
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Kate your scenario would do away with the concept of FIFO (first in, first out)...so, your scenario would not be fair to those that have worked their way up the list.  Also, your thoughts of "if someone doesn't respond, you can cancel the order and ask for it from a different seller" is also unfair to the individual because take for example me....the other day I had two book requests, due to my work schedule (working 3 - 12 hour shifts in a row) I had to delay when I could accept the books because with weekends, holidays and work I had to schedule it out at the max....I was still able to accept and mail but, it took a bit, NOW had the requestor cancelled because I didn't meet their acceptance expectations that would have been unfair to me.

 

PBS takes patience....

 

Date Posted: 12/2/2009 8:36 PM ET
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If I have a request on a Friday, I will wait until Sunday to accept, so I have next Friday to mail the books.  I too work some wacky hours and Friday's are the only day {normally} that has some flexiblity.    Many members post on their bookshelfs or profiles that they are waiting for the later mailby date and that your request will not time out.  So there is a way of knowing.  Also stuff happens, hospitals, births, deaths, work, that can cause a book to time out. 


I had similar feelings when I first started, but I do like the FIFO line - it is orderly.  Though I do use the forums to request books or from others who post, many times I just go FIFO. 


 

Date Posted: 12/2/2009 10:21 PM ET
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Lol Rebecca, welcome to PBS!

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 1:24 PM ET
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I just ordered a book on Wed.

It says that they have until 11 PM ET on Mon. to mark the book mailed to me. I thought that weekends don't count toward the days, since you can't mail then...

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 1:27 PM ET
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They do count because you can always use printed postage on larger books or stamps on smaller ones.

If I know it's going to give me a Sunday or Holiday mail by date I will wait a day or two to accept-unless I have other books to mail and know I'll mail it that day or the next.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 1:29 PM ET
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since you can't mail then...

Why can't you? I do most of my mailing outside of the "normal" post office hours. With stamps, APCs, online postage and blue boxes everywhere, you can mail 24/7.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 2:27 PM ET
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I am sure the OP is being funny.

But I do like FIFO, I am tired of people pushing ahead of me in lines while at Wal-mart and at the bank, etc so knowing my book will be requested right after the person who was before me in line, just seems fair.
And its one of the reasons I chose PBS over any other swap site.

Plus waiting 5 days will not kill anyone, seriously you can't wait a few days for a book?  I work full time, and lucky for me I can get online alot. Others I know have only a few times a week they get log into a computer. So because of that they would be penalised? Seems rather unfair to me.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 4:02 PM ET
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PBS is designed to work automatically.  Thus the FIFO system.  And if you cancelled  and that person wasn't responding because they were "deadbeats" (not a perjorative name -just indicates an abandoned account) PBS wouldn't have a chance to catch it and investigate.  That's how accounts are kept cleared up on the PBS side.  It sucks to have to go through the waiting times, but it's good to get the people who aren't participating off the roles. 

Certainly it makes it harder finding people with other books you would be interested in.  But that's really what the Buddy system is  for.

Ruth

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 6:28 PM ET
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As much as I hate waiting for a book to time out and move on to the next person in line, I get a sense of satisfaction out of knowing I removed an inactive member's book from the system. I do wish it didn't take almost 6 days for that to happen though.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 7:03 PM ET
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since you can't mail then...

I used to work across the street from the 24 hour post office, and I mailed books at all kinds of weird hours.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 7:40 PM ET
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If you hang out in the genre forums you can find lots of people with similar taste in books.

Date Posted: 12/3/2009 7:44 PM ET
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I was just used to another online bookstore that counted only business days, so I need to remember the other options out there, since I'm only used to packaging and handing it over to the person at the counter.

I'd like a 24 hr. post office around me...

 

Subject: I want my book
Date Posted: 12/3/2009 8:10 PM ET
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now!!! even though I can't get to it for 6 weeks or so! It's just going to go to the bottom of my "current" TBR pile. ( I have several TBR piles) I'm always checking DCs for what I'm getting and for what I've sent.  Too much time on my hands, I guess.

Argg, I just want to close out the transaction.;(

Date Posted: 12/4/2009 8:33 AM ET
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Awww, gosh guys,  I was just kidding!  I didn't mean anything except that I was really excited to use my first credit and 6 whole, entire, eternally long minutes had elapsed with no word.  I honestly wasn't complaining about the system or the owner of that book; I was making fun of myself.

To the one who said she's tired of ppl butting in front of her at walmart, et c . . . Amen, Sister! 

God Bless!

Date Posted: 12/5/2009 10:27 AM ET
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Rebecca, it was very funny.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the system waits one hour before alerting the sender of your request. So, at 6.5 minutes, the sender didn't even know your request existed! I believe the intent is to give the requester (you) time to change your mind. Yes, you can cancel a request later (as long as the sender had not already printed your shipping label), but there must have been enough cancellations w/in the first hour, that it was decided to not trouble senders (to find, pull, and check the book before accepting the request) until after an initial 60 minute remorse time period.

Welcome to pbs--I love this site!

--Barbara