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Subject: How to post this book
Date Posted: 2/2/2010 12:50 AM ET
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I have a wishlisted book that has a small amount of writing in it, so I pmed the first person on the list to let them know and see if they still wanted it. They said no, so I had to cancel (it seems unfair to make them cancel). How do I skip past them on the wish list/post it to my bookshelf? Is there any other way to do it besides advertising in the book bazaar?

Date Posted: 2/2/2010 2:12 AM ET
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If it has writing on any text page, you can not post it.  You can start a thread in the Book Bazaar and ask for a credit, explaining the writing.

Date Posted: 2/2/2010 2:12 AM ET
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You can't post it to your bookshelf until there is no more Wish List.

You are correct, you should be the one to cancel in this case. I can guarantee you that no one on the WL will want to cancel ... they will lose their place in line. The only way to move past this person would be to ask them to add a RC to their account, you post the book and then decline their RC, and the book then gets offered to the next person in the WL line.

Honestly, it may be easier to just offer it in the Bazaar. You can still ask for a credit for it, even though it has the writing.

Edited to add: Cozette, PBS has clarified their rules recently. They now say if the sender considers it a textbook, can be posted as long as she follows the rules about obtaining consent before mailing. And, really, almost anything could have been used as a textbook.



Last Edited on: 2/2/10 2:19 AM ET - Total times edited: 3
Date Posted: 2/2/2010 2:15 AM ET
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Actually, the way the system and rules are designed, it does not matter what the "objective definition" of a textbook is.  The club members decide this - as long as the rules in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS are followed.  See the explanation and examples below.

If a member considers her book a textbook she may Post it with underlining/highlighting/writing on text pages, according to the "textbook exception" in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS; BUT since the textbook exception in the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS require her to contact the requestor and obtain PM consent to the book's condition, she won't be in the position of sending a "stealth textbook" to someone who doesn't expect to receive one.

Examples/further explanation:

  • Member A posts an Economics 101 textbook - something that most people would clearly consider a textbook.   
  • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
  • Chances are good that she will get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc. 
  • Member B posts a novel (fiction) that she used in a class - something that most people would NOT consider a textbook.
    • Following the Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS textbook exception rules, she sends a Personal Message to the requestor when she gets a request, describing the book's condition.
    • Chances are good that she will NOT get PM consent from the requestor to send the book with highlighting/etc.
    • If the requestor declines the book in its condition, Member B will have to cancel the request and repost her book.  It will go to the 'back of the line' for requests.  (If it is a Wish Listed book, it will be offered to the same wisher and the sender will again have to cancel.  She will have to wait for the wishing member to get a copy of this book from someone else before Member B can post her copy again.)

So, the farther the book is from a 'textbook' in common perception, the more likely it will be difficult to get consent to its condition.  Members in Member B's situation may encounter several declines, and will eventually realize that the book is not likely to be acceptable to the club in its condition.  Member B will stop trying to offer it as a "textbook"  and will consider it instead an unpostable/damaged book.

In this way, the club defines "textbook" on a case-by-case basis, and no one who is following the rules will be able to "surprise" another person with a highlighted/written-in/underlined book.

Date Posted: 2/2/2010 4:11 AM ET
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Thanks for the help. I've posted it to the bazaar. I guess if it doesn't go pretty quickly, I'll just donate it to Goodwill.

Date Posted: 2/2/2010 9:08 AM ET
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Date Posted: 2/2/2010 10:28 AM ET
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You can also try putting it in your signature line.

Another option is to see if the person in first that doesn't want it will add a temporary RC that says "no writing in Book With This Title, then you could post it and deny the RC and get to the next wisher.

If the don't want to go through that hassle, add a note to the book with the number of wishers at this time, when you see that go down you can try posting it under the textbook/workbook exception again. You will have to cancel and wait each time a member doesn't want it if they don't want to add the RC.