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Subject: How to research rejected book?
Date Posted: 10/27/2015 12:36 PM ET
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I had a book member reject a swap.  I want to contact that book member and THANK THEM because they didn't send me a book from a smoking home.  Can you please tell me how to look up rejected swaps?

Date Posted: 10/27/2015 2:20 PM ET
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You cannot research a request when someone rejected your RC.  

I ordered something today and my RC was rejected.  

Here what PBS emailed me "Since this member has declined this request, it has been canceled. If you want to request this copy again, re-submit your request WITHOUT applying your Requestor Conditions - if the book is still available, your request will be submitted again". 

It's still available to order so it went on my reminder list.  So if I want it I could request it from my reminder list and turn off my RC.  

This option is not available if there are wishers for the book.  

 

 

Date Posted: 10/27/2015 8:56 PM ET
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RC declined swaps are blind. This is the one case where the transaction is not entered into your archive. All other swaps and cancellations show up in your archive.

Date Posted: 10/27/2015 8:57 PM ET
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look in your transaction archive.

Date Posted: 10/27/2015 11:10 PM ET
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If the RC was declined, it will not be in the archive. No way to contact the member.

It is set up this way to protect us. The RCs are guilt free. No way to gripe. Which also means no way to thank them.



Last Edited on: 10/27/15 11:11 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/28/2015 4:43 AM ET
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there must be a difference between a rejected request and a cancelled request. I have a cancelled request in my archive now. The person I requested from cancelled because she said she no longer has the book. I had requested 2 books and when she said she could not send one of them I cancelled the remaining one so maybe the system saw that as a cancellation of both books by me. Even though she rejected one of the books and even sent me a message about it. and both of those books are in my archive.



Last Edited on: 10/28/15 4:45 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
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Date Posted: 10/28/2015 7:54 AM ET
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Charles, the difference is rejected due to RC or cancelled by sender.  If it's rejected by RC, it will not be in your transaction archive for the reason Emily said, because rejected due to RC should be guilt free.  If it's cancelled by the sender (or you), it will be in your transaction archive.

Date Posted: 10/28/2015 8:59 AM ET
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I see. My post was just an illustration of one specific situation where that scenario you mention did not happen. A book I requested was rejected and it appears in my archive. This was a very unique situation that won't happen often but it does happen.

Date Posted: 10/28/2015 11:08 AM ET
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Date Posted: 10/28/2015 1:04 PM ET
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That might happen if you were the only person wishing. Or if all the other wishers also had declined RCs.

Date Posted: 10/28/2015 1:33 PM ET
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Date Posted: 10/28/2015 6:28 PM ET
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If you are turning off RC if you are declined, I do not understand why you bother having them and creating all the associated confusion? 

Date Posted: 10/28/2015 8:27 PM ET
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On 1 of the books declined the reason given was "a small amount of highlighting", which was not part of my RC's.  Since the book was just for  my own reading, I don't mind a little highlighting and am not sure how soon the book will be posted again by someone else.  On the other one I'd forgotten to turn off my RC's and there wasn't a specific reason given.  As I didn't think anything was wrong with the book and also didn't want to miss out on getting that particular book - I felt it was worth the risk.

An example:  One of my RC's is about water/liquid damage and coffee stains.  Although water/liquid damage is mentioned in the PBS condition guidelines, and although the majority of the books G. and I have received have been without any liquid damage, we had gotten several in the last few months. It had been tough getting back the credit on a few of those and a couple of the senders didn't return the credit.

Others here have mentioned on this thread and similar threads having to put a specific RC due to their experiences on the condition of the books they'd been receiving.

-- Jill



Last Edited on: 10/28/15 8:28 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/28/2015 9:17 PM ET
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First of all highlighting is against PBS rules so there should never have been a posting if there was highlighting. Likely, the presence of  RCs caused the decline. Many posters, myself included, do not want issues and even if a book was straight from bn.com  and in brand new condition, would decline because an RC exists. I realize this is unpopular but true.  Requesters can ask for anything, Senders can and do decline for anything. 

Repeating conditions already part of PBS guidelines is a very major turn off for me and perhaps others.



Last Edited on: 10/28/15 9:22 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 10/28/2015 9:40 PM ET
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Mary K,

There is an exception to highlighting for textbooks and for books that could be used for textbooks.  Anyway, regardless of if that applies to this particular book or not, I happen to want the book even though it has some in it.

In my previous post, I gave an example of one of my RC's and explained why.  I understand and have seen firsthand getting denials for RC's.

Fortunately, most people are accepting/sending the books we request.

Requestors can have RC's and most Senders can and have been sending the books regardless of them being there.

-- Jill

Date Posted: 10/28/2015 9:43 PM ET
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Actually, it's fine to post a book with highlighting, it falls under the textbook exception, where the sender must receive permission from the recipient before completing the order. Of course, if the person ordering has any kind of RC then it's possible they would not accept the highlighting anyway and declining would simply preempt needing to cancel, where you'd  have to repost to the WL manually. 

So, if I post a WL book with highlighting and an RC pops up, rather than sending a PM as I would do if it were a standard order I might simply decline the order, depending on what the RC was. My book would then be offered to the next in line. If I accept the RC and then PM but they say no I have to cancel and wait to repost so it's not offered to them again as they're in the #1 WL spot. But for a non-WL book with highlighting that could have been on my shelf for a while, when the order came in I might  do the same if it had an RC. In that case the book would stay on my shelf and I'd still be at the top of FIFO. Without an RC, if the book were declined when I sent a PM I would have to cancel the order and I'd lose my spot at the top of FIFO.