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I am a new memeber and I am trying to understand the rules for sending out books. (I really miss swaptree, where I could write/see notes on every book!)
I have received 4 books so far. 2 of them were in good used condition, exactly what I was expecting. They didn't look new, they had a lot of spine creasings, but were perfectly readable.
1 arrived on Saturday with yellow liquid stains that I'm not sure I want indentified. It is still readable, but kind of yucky IMO and not something I am willing to repost. I noted there was an issue when I marked it received.
1 arrived today that looks almost like new, except for a tiny 1 inch tear about 1/8 of an inch above the bottom edge of the first page. This doesn't bother me AT ALL. It's the teaser page, doesn't even come close to words. I slapped a bit of tape on it and called it good. But is it repostable? I repeat, I am going to read and enjoy this book, and I'm not complaining about the condition. I am only questioning how strict the rules are, since I seem to have had iffy luck. Is this something a long time user would report as having a tear in it? It seems a shame, as the rest of the book is like new.
After reading some of the posts here, I even pulled one of my books that had been requested because while I was leafing through it for the final time I found a dirty fingerprint in the margin on 2 pages. Am I holding my books to too high of a standard?f
The postability guidelines are found in the Help Center but I am including them below. In the one book you mentioned with the 1" tear on the opening page, it sounds as tho that is not a text page, which is the key. Tears in text pages are not allowed, but the "teaser" page, as you call it, is not considered a text page. People will often cut their name off that page if it had their name in it, used book stores sometimes will cut the corner of that page, etc. If you have certain requirements for the books you receive, consider setting up Requestor Conditions (RCs) and the details can be found in the help center.
When you Post a book, you are asked to confirm that the book is "in good condition, and not excessively worn". It is impossible to list all of the ways in which a book might be considered excessively worn, but the criteria below are as comprehensive as we have been able to make them.
If you feel your book falls into a "grey area", you can either post the book and send a Personal Message to the requestor, or not post the book. We have delineated what we can, and we expect members to follow these rules, and use their common sense in cases that are unclear. If you would not mind "paying" a credit for a book you are considering posting, then it is probably okay to post. However, book condition can be a subjective matter. Keep in mind that a pattern of sending out poor-condition or inappropriate books will jeopardize a sender's membership.
These Guidelines are not suggestions. They are criteria to which all books Posted here MUST comply.
All of the information below apply both to swapping for credits and Box-O-Books swapping.
Thank you for clearing that up. I had read through the guidelines before, but I must have missed where it said tears were okay if not on a text page. Like I said, I think the book is fine, but I don't want to repost it if it didn't meet the guidelines. :)
Hi! Welcome to PBS.
The postability rules are very clear, and for the most part, I think you will find that books arrive that are clearly postable. That's been my experience with the site. Every once in a while, you may get an unpostable book or one that is questionably postable.
Most people DO follow the rules, and most people WILL complain if they receive a book that they feel is unpostable.
The book with yellow stains on it .... yellowing from age or from the sun is OK to post. Yellowing from stains is absolutely not allowed. If you receive anything like that, you should mark it "Damaged by Sender" when you receive it, and request a credit refund of your credit. You will be prompted to write a message to the sender where you can expalin how you feel the book is damaged.
Regarding the rip in the page ... torn pages are NOT allowed anywhere in the book (covers may be ripped up to 1 inch and remain postable). However, the rule about missing pages in books specifically says "no missing text pages". Which many of us interpret to mean ... non-text pages can be missing. Following that logic, the teaser page is a non-text (non-story) page, and therefore can be missing from the book altogether and the book can reamin postable. So, my own opinion of that particular case is that neatly removing the teaser page with the rip in it, restores the book to 100% complete postability.
Fingerprints are stains and are not allowed.
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Frankly, I'd rather get a book with a 1" rip in the teaser page, than a book with the teaser page ripped out. My opinion (which I admit conflicts with the rules) is to leave the page in and if the recipient doesn't like the rip, *they* can remove it.
<<I must have missed where it said tears were okay if not on a text page>>
You didn't miss it -- that statement doesn't exist. The rule is no torn pages, period. Tape does not make a tear postable.
I'm sorry you received an icky, yellow-stained book. I hope you marked it as damaged and requested your credit be refunded. If it is helpful, I alsp write "UP" (for "unpostable" inside the front cover of books I get like that, so I don't inadvertantly post them again myself.
It doesn't say that. It says "No torn or chewed/gnawed pages". It is some members interpretation that it means text pages only because non-text pages can be missing so they believe that if you can remove a page then it is ok for it to be torn. This CAN cause you to get a swap marked as a Problem if you send it to a member that does not interpret the rule that way. I believe if the site meant to say text pages they would have said text pages like they did in other rules. It is best to swap any books like this in the Book Bazaar Forum where you can explain the issue and the receiver knows what they are getting. Removing a non-text page in an attempt to make a book postable gets risky because if the book appears to have pages missing and the receiver doesn't know what was on the page, they may ding you for a missing page. Its best to be up front and remove books from the system that make you question them. You can still ask for a credit for the book in the Bazaar.
Sounds like you are doing things right, sorry you got an icky yellow book and I'm glad you marked it as a problem and I hope you get your credit back. Happy Swapping!