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Subject: How can you tell how long someone has been a member IF
Date Posted: 6/13/2009 12:04 AM ET
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If they do not have a profile...I have 1 bad book and 2 so close to having gone missing in the mail ...I am wondering if  I can tell if they are new people who in the case of the missing books didn't know ..or read...to take them to the PO to be mailed....I REALLY REALLY wanted the 2 books that are missing ...books mailed WEEKS later I am getting ..these books are heavily WLed and I managed to snag these 2 because they had different ISBN....BUT something just seems off here....And PBS is sending ME letters it seems every 3 days...If anyone knows please let me know

 

thanks

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 12:06 AM ET
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If they do not have a profile, and have chosen not to share that information, then there is no way to tell unless they post regularly on the forums.  (Your member since date is included on each post).

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 12:22 AM ET
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Thanks that is what I am afraid of....I do not think she has ever posted....I hope you live far away from me I am loving those kitties :)

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 12:26 AM ET
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You can take a look at their shelf and try to extrapolate information from that.  It's not fool proof, but you can sometimes get an idea.

Date Posted: 6/13/2009 1:00 AM ET
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Hi and thanks...I did ..she only has 2 books posted and 2 wled..the wled books were from the same date I requested my books....I just have this gut feeling she failed to either mail them OR she didn't take them to the post office...smacked some stamps on and the weight and all well you have to go to the postal office to mail at a certain wieght I have no clue what they do if its thrown in a box ...due to security ..I know PBS tells you when it weighs enough to have to mail at the PO.....maybe she didn't look but this may mean I lost 2 books I may never get :*(



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Date Posted: 6/13/2009 6:16 AM ET
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Sorry this is happening, Sandy.  Unfortuantely, there is nothing you can do beyond what you have done.  Just be sure that if you don't get the books to ask to be put on the WL at the top if PBS doesn't automatically do that.  PBS has always done that for me, though.  I feel your pain.  Been there and done it!  There are 2 books I was supposedly getting and the sender PMd me telling me her DH wanted to read them.  But they were never re-posted.  I've been at the top of the WL since then (about a year).  I discovered that these 2 books (same author, same series) are very hard to find, and carry a fairly high price by 3rd party sellers on Amazon.  I'm thinking I may never get them at all.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/14/2009 2:57 AM ET
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Thank you Ruth for understanding. I looked at her bookshelf and her WL she's got to be very new....had to have joined end of May when I ordered my books...everything is dated end of May........no pms from her.......whine,,,,weep......I wonder too if she is one of those join to get free then leave types......color me perplexed and joining you in the wait game....Oh and yes my books were in a series too.

 

I wonder if they get letters from the club asking/confirming  if and when they mailed it



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Date Posted: 6/14/2009 6:45 AM ET
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Sandy,

If she's printed the label she'd get an e-mail from TPBS team.  I had one that I printed the label on Saturday afternoon after the mailman had gone by.  I knew I'd put it in the mail on Monday so I didn't mark it mailed.  

Monday I had an e-mail asking me if I had mailed the book.  If I had mark it mailed and if I hadn't PUT IT IN THE MAIL and mark it.  The capitals are mine.  It seems as though I was being scolded when I got that e-mail.

Now, if I print the labels on a Saturday afternoon I mark it that I'm going to mail on Monday!  No more e-mails for me...lol. 

Date Posted: 6/14/2009 9:07 AM ET
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It doesn't send the sender emails after the book has been marked mailed.  It only sends them to the requestor close to going lost incase they forgot to mark them received. The last email is when the book goes lost.  None after.

So it sounds like your books have not gone lost yet.  PBS give close to a month for a reason because sometimes they take that long. If they are coming from Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico or an APO/FPO address they can take longer then a month.  Also Texas has had some floading so if it's from that area-that could be why they are taking so long. 

 

 



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Date Posted: 6/14/2009 10:15 AM ET
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If she threw them in a blue bin with just stamps on them they would be returned to her. In that case the rules say she has to resend them appropriately AND that she should let you know via PM that she remailed them on a date different from the mailing date shown in the system.

Date Posted: 6/14/2009 12:23 PM ET
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The USPS has rules (9-11 rules) about what weight book can be mailed with only stamps and not handed directly to a postal clerk. 

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 1:04 AM ET
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Oh God thanks Mary, Geri, Ruth and  Bren sorry I didn't see these before..I am bad about checking my own threads..Thank you all....She has 2 days till it sez the club will take action....and YES these books should have been MAILED AT THE POST OFFICE because there were two and they are not light...which is why I am concerned she just put the stamps in and put them in a box.......and that is being nice because I always felt I would not get these books......still nothing..I do feel they should email BOTH parties when someone doesnt mark something received because in this case its from HER end and I never fail to mark my books rec'd the day I get them..Last night two copies of my 1 book showered up as available and I was tempted to order it ...today they are gone..I think I should have re-ordered cause I just have a gut feeking on this person...You would think if she mailed them on the 20th of MAY she would have pmed me herself even by now...I will let you all know how it goes.....

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 1:07 AM ET
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Well, at least you can cvomfort yourself that if 2 of the same title showed up last night - they may not take long to be re-posted.  It may be a fast moving book.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 3:21 AM ET
Member Since: 12/28/2006
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If your books were over 13 oz. and the sender used stamps and a blue box, yes there is a good chance USPS will return to sender since this violates the Homeland Security (9-11) mailing rule.  The time I made this boo-boo, the package was returned in a mere 2 or 3 days.  If the sender used printable postage, the 13 oz rule does not apply. 

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 3:46 AM ET
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Denise, the 13 ounce rule predates 9/11 by a few years.  Originally it was 16 ounces and that got lowered to 13 ounces in 2007, but the rule itself has been in effect for more than a decade now.

http://www.wdnweb.com/articles/2007/07/28/opinion/editorial01.txt to a story about it.

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:01 AM ET
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Didn't it come into play because of the Unibomber?

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:05 AM ET
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You know books do sometimes go lost and it doesn't mean that they weren't mailed.  Also her being a new member doesn't meant they weren't mailed when they went lost.  I had a WL book coming from a long time member go lost. They used DC and now almost a year later it still says Electronic Info received but no other scans.  Which looks to me like it wasn't ever mailed.  But who knows.  It could be sitting under the seat of the mailman's truck for all I know. 

I had another book go lost enroute to me that shows scanned at my local PO on 1/8 and I still haven't seen the book.  I checked with the PO and nothing.  It's obviously been misdelivered. 

So just saying that her being new and the books going lost does not mean they weren't mailed.  Also PBS will suspend her account if she has a lot of books go lost. 

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 10:42 PM ET
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Thanks all PBS marked it lost in the mail today AND put me on WL for them...1 was posted today so I will get that one....I sent her info on how to track lost mail....The thing is there is more to my suspicion than I have said in here and I would not want to embarrass anyone ...I know books really do go lost in the mail...I have been a member ...4 or 5 years ..now I am just hoping someone posts undead and unpopular then I will have them both....I can always repost her books IF they come...and get credits for them when/if I give her the credits...SHOULD they come...but yes this is cool..it is not hopeless :)

Again Thank you all

Date Posted: 6/17/2009 11:05 PM ET
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"Didn't it come into play because of the Unibomber?"

The Unibomber may have caused heightened concern, but the original 16 ounce rule stemmed from concerns about international mail, and mail to APO/FPO addresses and aircraft safety.

Here's an exerpt from the Federal Register dated August 16, 1996 which explains the (then) new 16 ounce rule, why it was implemented and expanded and, interestingly, the fact that letter carriers are allowed to accept such packages if the customer is known to them.  (I'll highlight that part in the exerpt)

"SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: On September 27, 1995, the Postal Service
published a final rule in the Federal Register announcing restrictions
on the mailing of packages weighing 16 ounces or more to international
and APO/FPO destinations (60 FR 49755-49758). These restrictions were
promulgated to enhance airline security measures and to protect the
traveling public, postal employees, and postal contractors who
transport U.S. mail. The Postal Service developed these changes in
package collection procedures in consultation with the Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA).
The Postal Service has now determined, for the same reasons, to
extend similar restrictions to packages that are deposited into
collection receptacles and mailed to domestic addresses. These added
provisions will affect only First-Class/Priority Mail packages weighing
16 ounces or more that bear postage stamps and that are mailed from
domestic addresses. These new restrictions do not affect Express Mail,
Periodicals (former second-class mail), or Standard Mail (B) (former
fourth-class mail) at any weight up to the maximum of 70 pounds; any
item weighing less than 16 ounces; and any package, regardless of
weight, for which postage is paid with a postage meter or a permit
imprint.
Under the revised standards set forth below, domestic First-Class/
Priority Mail packages bearing postage stamps and weighing 16 ounces or
more may not be deposited into collection receptacles, including
street, lobby, and apartment boxes, or left in rural mailboxes.
Instead, these packages must be presented by the sender at the local
post office. A sender known to a Postal Service delivery employee may
also give such packages to a city, rural, or highway contract letter
carrier.
"

Here's a link to the full section in the Federal Register: http://ribbs.usps.gov/files/fedreg/USPS96/96-25782.TXT


Last Edited on: 6/17/09 11:05 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/17/2009 11:18 PM ET
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The very first book I sent out when I joined PBS was marked lost.  As I was a new mwmber, I'm sure the recipient thought it would never show.  It did eventually.

Date Posted: 6/19/2009 8:07 PM ET
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A small PB I sent from NM to VA was marked lost, but showed up in the requestor's mailbox a week or so later. The requestor said she thought perhaps her mail carrier had been holding it back because he was bearing a grudge from when she'd complained that he'd bent a hardback to force it into her mailbox. Hulkish mail carrier? Anything's possible. I hope your books eventually show up, too.