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Subject: How's this sound for an RC?
Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:01 PM ET
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I live in Florida and well we get late afternoon\evening showers here. My mail comes late usually between 4-5PM when the showers are in full effect. I just put this as an RC.

"Plz wrap books in plastic if possible. I live in Florida, we get late afternoon\evening showers here, and my mail comes about that time. Thanks!"

 

Is that simple and easy enough? I'm not demanding it just asking if it's possible.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:15 PM ET
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I would take out the "if possible".  That leaves too much wiggle room.  Either you want plastic wrap or not.  People will likely deny your request since it is unclear what you are wanting.



Last Edited on: 6/24/10 8:59 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:24 PM ET
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Well so far all the books i've received have been wrapped in plastic (I've only received 11 books so far). But they weren't sent during rainy season here. My mailman is a butt head and if it's too big for the mailbox he just throws it over the fence doesn't even bother getting out of the truck! I'm really not trying to be a pain to those who are sending, I'm just happy to be getting the book. I put the if possible because if the sender doesn't want to they don't have to. Maybe just loose it all together and hope for the best? Most of the books I get are off of my WL and they aren't commonly posted books and I really don't want to be denied.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:37 PM ET
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I have to say it, you have a run on sentence.  Getting RCs with spelling and grammar mistakes makes me hesitate. 

Plz wrap books in plastic if possible. I live in Florida, we get late afternoon\evening showers here, and my mail comes about that time. Thanks!

Maybe:

Please wrap books in plastic.  Here in Florida we get late afternoon and evening showers.  Right during my mail delivery.  Thanks.

(Does that need a comma?  Agh.  Grammar! Spelling!)

Do keep in mind that if you are the only person on the WL, then you can request denied books with the RC off.

Here is an old thread talking about RCs.  How to write a good RC



Last Edited on: 6/24/10 4:39 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:38 PM ET
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If you don't want to be denied, maybe you could word it a bit differently.

Something like, "I appreciate books wrapped in plastic because my mailman sometimes just tosses books over my fence, even in the rain. If you can't do that, I'll understand and take my chances, but I'll be even happier if you use plastic."

I'm new at RCs, but I think I would accept that in the spirit in which it was intended.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 4:47 PM ET
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Having short sentences and a sense of humor are definitely a plus in a RC.   Elizabeth's needs to be less wordy.  (Sorry.)

 

And folks WILL deny a RC is it is unclear.  You want it black or white, yes or no.  No "if possible" or "I'll take my chances". 

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 5:25 PM ET
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Short and sweet is usually your best bet. "Please wrap books in plastic - it's the rainy season here" seems perfectly adequate.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 7:09 PM ET
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Short and sweet is usually your best bet. "Please wrap books in plastic - it's the rainy season here" seems perfectly adequate.

+1 Concise and polite.

 

Please wrap books in plastic.  Here in Florida we get late afternoon and evening showers.  Right during my mail delivery.  Thanks.

That is a sentence fragment.

 

If you are willing to take your chances, omit a RC. Some people decline them on principle without reading them, but might wrap in plastic anyway.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 7:54 PM ET
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I think: "Please wrap books in plastic - it's the rainy season here"
 sounds clear and reasonable.

I also have a plastic RC.  After having 7 books ruined from rain because of a walking mail carrier who doesn't like to close the mailbox all the way, I put it in place.  So far I've had it turned down twice in a hundred or so requests.  Those odds are okay with me. 

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 8:40 PM ET
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Personally all I think you need to say is Please wrap all books in plastic.       It really doesn't matter where you are or why you want them that way.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 9:07 PM ET
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If you wanted to add some humor (I live in the swamps in Texas so I understand your pain) I'd put:  It's monsoon season in Florida.  I would be so grateful if books were wrapped in plastic. 

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 9:19 PM ET
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I would just write "Please wrap books in plastic".

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 9:39 PM ET
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Agree, short and sweet-

"Please wrap books in plastic".

Although I also like the humor-

It's monsoon season in Florida.  I would be so grateful if books were wrapped in plastic.

Date Posted: 6/24/2010 10:41 PM ET
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Here's my RC:  "Please wrap books in plastic. Thanks."

Short and to the point. No problems so far.

Subject: RC....short and sweet
Date Posted: 6/24/2010 11:33 PM ET
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Please  wrap books in plastic.

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 12:19 AM ET
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I think your RC is fine Ester.  It is similar to my winter one--I don't require it, I say "if you can"-- and I have never had anyone deny the RC because they couldn't tell if I really wanted it or not. I have had a handful come without protection, but arrived fine so it wasn't an issue.

The only thing I might suggest is saying "please weatherproof" instead of "wrap in plastic" unless you will only accept plastic as protection.  There are some members who won't use plastic, but have other ways of keeping packages from getting wet.

Date Posted: 6/25/2010 12:35 AM ET
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As of right now I just omitted it. But thanks everyone for the reply.

I have to say it, you have a run on sentence.  Getting RCs with spelling and grammar mistakes makes me hesitate. 

Honestly it really shouldn't matter. It's pretty sad because you think someones grammar\spelling isn't up to par you would consider not sending them a book. I recently had a RC written in text form, didn't bother me a bit. I also didn't look down at that person because of it. You should keep in mind some people now a days use cell phones to get on the web. Typing out things can be rather difficult on such a small keyboard. So just because I used Plz instead of Please shouldn't really matter. Keeping the words shorter keeps the RC shorter. I myself use my phone a lot to get on here.

Sorry but your reply about grammar\spelling really got under my skin. smiley



Last Edited on: 6/25/10 12:36 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/25/2010 1:58 AM ET
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By using a RC, you are asking for above and beyond the standard posting.  You should be willing to spend the time and effort to edit your RC. I don't care how you word your forum posts.   But you should be making the effort for a RC.  The tone and the wording really matter on a RC.   There is a real difference between using "please" and using "must" on a RC.  And there is a real difference between using text speak and not. 

You are obviously aware of this as you did ask for comments on your RC.

I do not look down on a person because of their spelling.  But I really do hesitate when someone is asking ME for a favor who does not even make the effort.  I expect a RC to be clear and polite.  Humor is an added bonus.  Why should I make an extra effort when the person asking has not bothered to?

Date Posted: 6/27/2010 3:37 PM ET
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Perhaps they aren't as educated as you are, Emily, in the area of English. You state you are not looking down on them for not having good grammar & spelling, but I find someone that decides things based on someone else's grammar & spelling to be an awful picky person. To feel slighted because someone used a sentence fragment is the height of snobbishness in my opinion. Good grief, why should I labor over spelling & grammar just to make a request?  To think someone would consider rejecting an RC because the person didn't have enough education in English to measure up to your standards or just doesn't find it as great a standard of one's right to be a member is just absolutely ridiculous (Yes, I realize you didn't say they didn't have the right to be a member if they couldn't bother to live up to your English standards, but you might as well have and you definitely implied that because they can't be bothered to labor over their English they don't have a right to have an RC or at least have one that you will accept.). I strongly agree with Esther, you may not call it looking down on someone to consider their spelling & grammar in reading their RCs but I certainly think it is, and it obviously got under my skin, too.

AND, I most definitely did not bother to check my grammar or spelling in this post, as pleasing you is certainly not on my list of things to be worried about today, so do NOT bother to point any of them out to me. Thank you.

Date Posted: 6/27/2010 3:49 PM ET
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Here's another idea, Esther. 

I once had a WL book refused to me for no other reason than I had a RC.  The person and I PM'd back and forth and actually became chummy so she regretted not sending the book to me.  That's ok. (not getting my WL book).    If that's the worst thing that happens to me, I've got it made.  (smile)

But seeing as you would really like your WL'd books, I would recommend removing the RC and instead, send them a PM asking for plastic and tell them why.  I think most people would be very accomodating.  After all, plastic covering is so cheap,. even a plastic bag would do the trick. 

Good luck! 

Date Posted: 6/27/2010 6:08 PM ET
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How about we remove the mentioning of grammar and spelling.  Those seem to be triggering educational bias stuff.  (Ironically, as I used incorrect grammar in my suggestion.)  Instead I'll say about this sentence:

"I live in Florida, we get late afternoon\evening showers here, and my mail comes about that time." 

It's too long.  Too dense.  Break it up into shorter sentences.

I still stand by my comment that tone really matters in a RC.  You have a very short time to convince someone to do you a favor, to go above the standard.  How the RC looks matters almost as much as how clear it is.  And how polite.  A dense paragraph of type will get much more turn downs that a few short sentences.  A long sentence might also get more rejections.

The point to edit a RC is to make it simple, clear, and polite.   Grammar is a tool meant to make our meaning clear to more people.  (Text speak is also a tool; which has a risk of being less understood.)

Sherry-   the sentence fragment was MINE.  

Date Posted: 6/27/2010 11:36 PM ET
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My 2 cents: I like "Please wrap books in plastic, it's the monsoon season here."

That, to me, is a simple request with a valid reason behind it.

Date Posted: 6/28/2010 12:03 AM ET
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I don't wrap in plastic and I have received very few that were wrapped in plastic.  If someone requests this because of a problem in their area I will use a weatherproof envelope.  If someone requests plastic I have used the "plasticized" envelope and no  one has complained.

Date Posted: 6/28/2010 11:16 AM ET
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I don't get why it's a big deal that Emily would be turned off by poor grammar or text speak in an RC.

I have seen so many crazy reasons for declining RCs in the forums. How is this one any different from declining all RCs on principle, for the use of words like "prefer" or "would appreciate," or the ones that say they don't read long RCs because that extra 30 seconds is time they could use to read a book.

Really, if anything, Emily was pointing out something that seems like an issue with RCs that I'm surprised hasn't come up on the threads considering how picky it seems we can all be about RCs and how they're worded, etc. That's why people ask how to word them afterall, right?

Date Posted: 6/28/2010 1:42 PM ET
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I personally don't decline any RC I get.  I don't understand declining a RC for any reason unless it's a totally outrageous request. But thats just me. Everyone is picky in their own way, which is why I did away with my RC as I do not want someone to decline my request. As I've said I'd rather they be in plastic but I have several books in my WL that aren't posted very often. Most books on my WL don't even give me a date of the last time it was posted and I have N\A as a estimated wait.

My main reason for asking wasn't to see if my grammar\spelling was OK. It was to see how others would react to it. Was it too long, is it an outrageous request?  While some people are better in the English department others are better in the Math department. Doesn't mean they should be declined because of the way something is mis-spelled or mis-worded. I thought we were all here to trade books because we love to read not because we are picky and decline someone who's grammar and spelling it's up to our own standards. But like stated above others will decline a request just because there is an RC. Most people have RC's so I guess those people decline a lot of requests. Hopefully they those who are declined can get the book they are wanting from a person who is a little more understanding and has the reason to understand others are just as picky as they are.

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