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Subject: No ISBN
Date Posted: 7/3/2009 4:46 AM ET
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I have an old (1965) book with no ISBN anywhere.  There are two posted in the system, under two different numbers.  I have no idea where they got these numbers and am hesitant to just use the same number in case they really aren't correct.  One doesn't have the cover pictured, so I don't know if its exactly the same  (mine is book club edition so it might be slightly different), but one is exactly the same.

Can I just post it under the number of the one exactly like it and hope the number is right?

or how can I find numbers on old books.  I found one site, but this book wasn't in their database.

 

Thanks for any help.

Arlene

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 7:35 AM ET
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You need to post it without an ISBN.  PBS will assign a 5 digit # to it.  You cannot just pick one that looks right.  It's very easy to post without an ISBN. 

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 8:16 AM ET
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Arlene, they started giving ISBNs to books some time in the 60s, so yours probably was never issued one.  The numbers you see in the posted versions are temporary PBS numbers assigned by the system, so as Mary said, use the "Post a Book Without an ISBN" instructions.  You might want to add tags to the book too, to help people find it (like what the book is about, if it's not obvious from the title).

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 11:54 AM ET
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but one is exactly the same

I would re-use the 5-digit ISBN ***IF*** book type (presumably paperback), number of pages (more or less as I've seen those off by just a few in some cases), publisher, and year (if the existing number includes one) all match.

Definitely tag the other versions "also ISBN 12345"..

 



Last Edited on: 7/3/09 11:54 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/3/2009 1:01 PM ET
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If you post without a number, be sure to enter a very complete description and edit it for typos.  It is hard to change those afterwards. 

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 2:06 PM ET
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Arlene,

sometimes on these old books when they first issued ISBNs, they were printed on the spine. If you see a 10 digit number,that could be the ISBN (usually when they did this, they added the price at the end, maybe on a new line, (which is not part of the ISBN)). It could also be printed on the front cover, usually in the upper left or right corner, or on the front cover but along the spine. You could check those locations and see if you see it.

(I mean on paperbacks. I haven't seen this on old hardbacks)



Last Edited on: 7/3/09 2:06 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/3/2009 4:55 PM ET
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Please do not do as was suggested above and re-use the 5 digit number where the book appears to be the same....PBS says not to reuse those numbers so, please choose to follow the rules.

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 5:02 PM ET
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According to another regular forum poster those 5-digit numbers are not explicitly forbidden from re-use.

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 7:01 PM ET
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I recently hand-listed an early '70s paperback (with no ISBN) which DID have a reissue listed but I didn't want to mislead anyone looking for the book.

I don't even know if PBS assigned a number to it because it was requested from me within a half hour. It could have been found via the newly posted books thingy on the home page, or via books posted today pages. However it was found, someone wanted it - it's such an easy process to hand enter a book, and I wouldn't hesitate to do it again, however I wouldn't murk the post by adding anything I thought was an ISBN, or take an ISBN from a reissue or anything like that.

Date Posted: 7/3/2009 7:33 PM ET
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According to The Help Center:  (even regular forum posters are wrong sometimes)

"Short ISBNs" cannot be reused to post another copy of that book (the Post Books field will accept only 10 or 13 digit ISBNs)

Non-ISBN items are items Posted by a member onto his or her bookshelf using a customized (not pre-existing) listing. 

(underlining my addition)



Last Edited on: 7/3/09 7:38 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 7/3/2009 11:02 PM ET
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On some older books the 10 digit ISBN is on the copyright page inside.  (The old books do not have 13 digit ISBN, those are all recent.)