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Subject: Ideas for 2011 Fantasy Challenge?
Date Posted: 11/1/2010 5:58 PM ET
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So anybody have any suggestions for next year's challenge? What did you like about the one we did this year? What didn't you like? Were there enough options for completion? Too many? Were the three tiers (15, 30, or 45) good marking points? And do you want brand spanking new categories for next year, or some repeats?

Date Posted: 11/4/2010 1:19 PM ET
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Phoenix, I loved the challenge. I would like to see a much smaller challenge maybe 15 or 20 not the 45 like we did this year.  Any categories would work for me. What did you have in mind?

Date Posted: 11/4/2010 8:33 PM ET
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Personally, I liked the big challenge.  Even at 45 books, I was done halfway through the year!  A 15 book challenge I could almost do in a single month.  However, I stick mostly to fantasy, though I've been reading more sci-fi lately.  I don't have nearly the number of challenges going that either of you do.

There was the light challenge, after all. 

I liked the majority of the categories.  The only ones I didn't really care much for was the point of view challenges. 

But I'm open to anything that keeps people around chatting about what books they're reading.  One of the best parts, IMO, was using other people's updates as reading suggestions.  I read a lot of really great books this year I may never have looked twice at without someone mentioning it around here.

Date Posted: 11/5/2010 7:45 AM ET
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Melanti, without this challenge I would not have discovered a ton of great authors. I was not a huge fan of the point of view challenges either. Also the award winners were cool but I would maybe skip them this year. The interaction on the board has been wonderful for me to rediscover this genre. I do think that Phoenix did an amazing job of organizing both this and the sci fi challenge.  My only issue is I do not have a good idea on what to replace these categories with.   

Date Posted: 11/5/2010 10:16 PM ET
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I just need a book list. :) I keep watching these threads and can't head out and find lots of stuff that'll fit the categories.

Date Posted: 11/6/2010 11:36 PM ET
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What do you all think of having categories that force you (a little) outside the genre? For instance, a graphic novel category? Or a non-genre novel by a genre author? Or a "literary" fantasy novel, meaning a fantasy novel that bookstores shelve in the Fiction/Literature section instead of the SF/Fantasy section? Or a work of related non-fiction? (Related meaning, oh, a history book about a setting in one of the fantasy novels you're reading for the challenge, or some kind of analysis of the fantasy genre, or some kind of analysis of mythology/folklore.)

Date Posted: 11/7/2010 12:25 AM ET
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Hm.  Those would all be good categories.  It would still give plenty of variety to choose from, but be a bit of a stretch for most people.

I ended up reading a couple of graphic novels this year and didn't dislike them nearly as much as I thought I would.  (I'll reluctantly admit to really liking one of them.)

A non-fiction component might be a way to motivate myself to read The Golden Bough.  It's been sitting, barely started, on my shelf for years.  I recently got the ebook version thinking that if it didn't weigh several pounds and wasn't several inches thick, I might nibble away at it a bit more often.  No dice so far.

What about the weird fiction genre?  Though that might take a lot of head scratching to figure out what exactly weird fantasy is.

Date Posted: 11/7/2010 1:53 PM ET
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Yeah, weird fiction is one of those genres that Wikipedia is not terribly enlightening about. . . either there's the historical definition (which is basically stuff that would be marketed as fantasy or horror today but wasn't when it was published because those marketing categories didn't exist) or there's the "new weird" bit from the 80s which. . . well, just looks like dark fantasy to me. :)



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Date Posted: 11/10/2010 10:44 PM ET
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I've really loved doing this challenge.  It's really pushed me out of the box on the fantasy genre.  I read my first Neil Gaiman this year, and then read six more.  I would definitely like to see a graphic novel category.  Some of the award categories were a little challenging.  I can't wait to see what shows up next year!

Date Posted: 11/13/2010 3:01 PM ET
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How about having a category for a series 3 to 5 books?  I seem to get started on a series and need to jump to another book to work on the challenge.

Date Posted: 11/17/2010 8:57 PM ET
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I'm a newbie here in the forums. I'm interested in the challenge but how exactly does it work?

Date Posted: 11/17/2010 10:14 PM ET
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Here is what's up on the thread for the Fantasy Challenge, list only.  Check out that thread to get more details.  

Light Challenge: Read a novel you have not read before in five of the the fifteen options in each of the three categories, for a total of fifteen novels.

Regular Challenge: Read a novel you have not read before in ten of the fifteen options in each of the three categories, for a total of thirty novels.

Super Challenge: Read a novel you have not read before in all fifteen of the fifteen options in each of the three categories, for a total of forty-fivenovels.

Note: Due to the various options for completing this challenge, no books will be allowed to count in more than one category.

Amy
Date Posted: 11/18/2010 10:56 AM ET
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I loved doing the challenge and I'm up for pretty much anything next year.

Date Posted: 11/18/2010 9:47 PM ET
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Sorry, I've been looking through old postings but I'm pretty new here. Can anyone give a concise explanation of what the challenge is and a location of where to find information.  I keep seeing posts about books filling certain options or categories but I'm still confused as to what these are exactly and where to go to find out about them.  Thanks

Amy
Date Posted: 11/18/2010 10:00 PM ET
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Danielle,

http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=189071

http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=189070

The 2010 challenge is almost over, but there will be a new one for 2011.

Date Posted: 11/21/2010 4:07 PM ET
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I'll bite. After 20 years of reading scifi/fantasy I think I'm starting to get snobby about what I read. I need to get my nose out of the air and back in the books.

I like the tier structure. I think your genre categories and the author/award categories would carry over nicely. Those are pretty wide open categories. If you want to freshen up the setting/protaganist category, you could get some ideas from the literary trope site you posted way-back-when. (I think it that was you...) You could switch the protagonist for the antagonist, or perhaps pick from the motifs and plots. I'm sure others that aren't listed will occur to you. ;)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Plots

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Motifs

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Characters

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpeculativeFictionTropes

"What do you all think of having categories that force you (a little) outside the genre? For instance, a graphic novel category? Or a non-genre novel by a genre author? Or a "literary" fantasy novel, meaning a fantasy novel that bookstores shelve in the Fiction/Literature section instead of the SF/Fantasy section? Or a work of related non-fiction? (Related meaning, oh, a history book about a setting in one of the fantasy novels you're reading for the challenge, or some kind of analysis of the fantasy genre, or some kind of analysis of mythology/folklore.)"

I really like this, but maybe it should be kept as a bonus challenge? Even I'm having a hard time thinking of books that would fit some of those categories (and of course I've already read those...)

 

 

 



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Date Posted: 11/24/2010 8:39 AM ET
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 When do you think the 2011 categories are going to be posted? I had so much fun with last year's challenge even though I did not get all of it done.

Date Posted: 11/24/2010 12:25 PM ET
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I'm going to post them 12/1.

So six more days to get your suggestions in!

Date Posted: 11/28/2010 10:25 PM ET
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Last couple days to get your suggestions/request in. . . I'll be posting the 2011 challenge Dec. 1st!

Amy
Date Posted: 11/29/2010 3:57 PM ET
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If anyone is interested, I can make banners again for the 2011 challenge. I know the ones for 2010 weren't really used. Let me know.

Date Posted: 11/29/2010 9:09 PM ET
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I liked the banners! So I'd love it if you make them again! :)

Date Posted: 11/30/2010 3:29 PM ET
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I think the banners are a nice touch as well.

Date Posted: 12/1/2010 2:31 AM ET
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All right, folks, we're off! List thread is here: http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=222599

Discussion thread, with explanations of all the categories is here: http://www.paperbackswap.com/forum/topic.php?t=222598

And this year to make things easier I will include links to the previous related posts at the top of each month's thread.

Amy
Date Posted: 12/1/2010 3:55 PM ET
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I will make them once classes are finished for the semester, so about two weeks. :)

Thanks for putting this together again!