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Subject: Inserts in books
Date Posted: 3/26/2017 5:21 PM ET
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Have you ever run across that? Can you post these books? It's not a real advertisement, it's a see these other authors  through this publisher thing.



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Date Posted: 3/26/2017 5:55 PM ET
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Yes, and yes you can post them.  I guess you could tear them out, carefully not to compromise the binding; they're not part of the actual book/story/pages, etc. I think they be perforated too. Not unlike the pages in the back (mostly MMP) with promotional ads of other authors of the same genre from the publisher and ordering info.



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Date Posted: 3/26/2017 7:54 PM ET
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I concur...they are postable. I always leave them intact. I have received books where they have been removed and they don't come out easily and can leave the book compromised.

Date Posted: 3/26/2017 8:57 PM ET
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Thank you!

Date Posted: 3/26/2017 9:10 PM ET
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From the Help Center:

What is Allowed in a package sent using Media Mail rate:

  • Media, as described above
  • A note with a simple accompanying message,
    • such as "Happy Birthday!" or "Hope you enjoy it!"
  • An invoice or notification of the shipment
    • The second page of the PBS Wrapper falls into this category.
    • The USPS eligibility guidelines for enclosures and attachments for Media Mail say (we have edited these for relevance; the full regulations are at http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/173.htm#wp1060522)
    • 4.0 Attachments and Enclosures

      4.2  Enclosures in Books  (bound into the books)

    • a. Either one envelope or one addressed postcard may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an order form, the envelope or card may be in addition to the order form permitted by 4.2b..

      b. One order form may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an envelope or postcard, the order form may be in addition to the envelope or card permitted by 4.2a..

      c. Announcements of books may appear as book pages. These announcements must be incidental and exclusively devoted to books, without extraneous advertising of book-related or other materials or services. Announcements may fully describe the conditions and methods of ordering books and may contain ordering instructions for use with a separate order form. Up to three of these announcements may contain as part of their format a single order form, which may also serve as a postcard. The order forms permitted with these announcements are in addition to, and not in place of, order forms that may be enclosed under 4.2a. or 4.2b..

 

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 3:42 PM ET
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I got a book request recently where the requester had as an RC that she didn't want any books where these were either still in the book or had been torn out. Asked her why and she said the book wasn't as stable. Fortunately, the book she wanted had never had them in them. Think they're mostly in Harlequin and older books. Don't think I've seen many recently. Pat

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 4:07 PM ET
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But how would you know if it had been torn out if you weren't the one who tore it out? indecision

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 4:17 PM ET
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I know that in the 70's there were many books that had cigarette ads in the inserts. I guess you had to have a smoke after reading a romance book. I've come across several where someone has torn out the insert and it does make the book spine look funky.

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 7:56 PM ET
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That's too funny! I guess it would be nearly impossible to remove one completely. I think it's mostly Harlequin/MIRA that puts them in there anymore, since they still offer a lot of subscription services. They are pretty annoying.

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 9:11 PM ET
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Amanda - if I remember right, you can tell, as it does leave some residue. Pat

Date Posted: 3/28/2017 9:49 PM ET
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"I guess you had to have a smoke after reading a romance book."

OMG - who else remembers all the hokey 1940s-1960s movies which faded out at the bedroom door, then resumed with (usually the male lead) sitting on the side of a messed up bed, wearing pants, socks and no shirt or maybe t-shirt and smoking a cigarette.   I never did figure out whether sex sold tobacco, or tobacco sold sex....