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Subject: has item wish listed, but only the paperback version......
Date Posted: 2/13/2009 7:48 PM ET
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I have a book that I am hesitant to leave on my bookshelf because I feel like someone might feel left out ot cheated in some way. The book is "Christmas With Martha Stewart Living" published in 1997 by several companies including Martha Stewart Omnimedia and Oxmoor House. It's a wonderful book and any Martha fan would agree it's a MUST HAVE for any domestic goddess in training. Now, heres what gets me. I'm a newbie of course, so maybe I missed something. I have the HARDCOVER version of the book. I put it on my bookshelf however I am going to place it on hold until I sort this out.

When I was initially poking around to see what I have that others wanted, I saw the exact same book wishlisted by 2 people. So, when I went back to review my additions to my bookshelf, I noticed that even though the book was wishlisted, that was not showing up for this book. So, upon closer examination, I found that the ONLY real difference between the wishlisted item and the item I have is that the wishlister had only checked paperback when it was added.

So, my dilemma is this......I dont think there is a way to find out who the wishlisters are (and who was first to want it for that matter). Personally, I PREFER a fardcover book and most people I know who like the same types of books as I ALSO prefer the durability of the hardcover. I guess I feel like if I leave the hardcover book up on my bookshelf and someone ELSE finds it and wants it, then its not really fair to the other 2 who waited for the paperback. (Maybe I AM a little OCD after all?!?!?) Now, perhaps when it was added to the wishlist it was an oversight on the part of the person wanting it. OR, perhaps a glitch in PBS software that would leave the person (assuming it didnt matter) under the impression that either the hardcover or softcover version would pop up for ordering when it came available?

Ok, so for anyone that followed my though process, PLEASE tell me what I should do. Thank you so much!

Subject: ALSO....
Date Posted: 2/13/2009 7:50 PM ET
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I did just put the book on hold. I will check back in a little while.

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 7:50 PM ET
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Go  to the page for the softcover WL editions and put a tag on it with your ISBN saying it's the same book only HC.

Ruth

Subject: did what ruthy said....
Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:11 PM ET
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going to make my kids dinner and get them to bed. THIS IS SOOOOOOOOO ADDICTING!

Would it be a TOTAL blatent violation to just delete it from my bookshelf then re-post it as a paperback? Then when the wishlister decides weather he/she wants it, I can PM them letting them know WHY I put the hardcover under that specific posting and give them the option to take it or pass. Thats kinda what my train of thought is to do.

I have a LOT of books sitting here and would like to have as many as possible OUT of my third bedroom within a week or two......but I dont want to make anyone mad or violate the rules. in the mean time I've left my hardcover on hold until I get done in an hour or so.

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:21 PM ET
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If you have the hardcover, please do not try posting it as paperback.  That is against the rules, even you do let them know and give them the option.  A couple of other things you can do:

1) Make a post about in the Books Bazaar, stating you have a wishlisted title but different ISBN/binding.

2) You can also put the info in your signuture space so that it's seen by everyone who reads any post you make.

Welocme to the club!  Yes, PBS can be very addicting.  :-)

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:26 PM ET
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No don't do that.  Most likely they know that the hardcover version is available and they really want a paperback.   Did you put it on your reminder list to see how many copies are posted? If there are other copies posted then you lost your place in the FIFO line by putting the book on hold.

You could try tagging the WL version with the ISBN# of the one that's WL. PBS does send out an email when another version of someone's WL is posted.  Although there is the option to turn that off.

I think you are overthinking this. Post the book and if someone other then those 2 order the book it's no big deal.  The people on WL should know that most books come in multiple editions are capable of searching PBS for those other versions.  They know they can WL multiple versions.

OK I see that you just joined today.  Tag the WL book with the ISBN of yours.

Also what is the publishing date of the one that's WL? If it's a much newer version it maybe updated and therefore more desireable.  Especially if it's a decorating book as styles have changed since 1997.

ETA: it's not going against the rules for someone to order the book from you who does not have the other version on their WL.  Like I said before-those other people had the option of putting the hardback on WL and chosen not to for whatever reason.



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Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:26 PM ET
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No, definitely post it under the correct ISBN and tag the softcovers with the HC ISBN so people know it's available and what the ISBN is.  The BB is a good idea as is posting the book's info in the genre forum.  I don't like to get HC's if I can help it, so I'm not happy to have one show up under the wrong ISBN.  If it's popular - use all the tools mentioned and you'll get it taken.

Ruth

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:27 PM ET
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Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:33 PM ET
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Also, if the two editions are 'linked' in the system (it looks like they might be), then when your book becomes available in the system an email will be sent to the two members wishing for the hardcover to let them know another version is available.

My opinion about posting it and having someone other than the wishers get it is this:  First, they may actually prefer paperbacks, so that may be why they only have that version wishlisted.  Second, if they wanted to, they could search for the book and add any other edition to their wish lists, but they apparently haven't.  I would say that means it's free for the taking, and if it were my book, I'd go ahead and post it and see what happens.  Welcome to PBS, you'll love it!  =)

 

Date Posted: 2/13/2009 8:40 PM ET
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Go ahead and post it as the hardback with the correct ISBN on the book. It is against the rules to post a hardback as a soft cover so please do not try that.

When a book is posted that is a different version (hardcover vs softcover) of one that someone has on their WL, an email goes out to all of them from PBS letting them know that a different version has been posted. (Some people turn this option but most have it enabled)  It is then available on a first come first served basis. I agree with the others that Tagging the softcover version with your  hardback's ISBN is a great idea.

Subject: Ok overthinking it I am...
Date Posted: 2/13/2009 9:18 PM ET
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Thats what you get when you have three kids under age 6 and everything MUST be fair. Well, ladies, I did tag the softcover version with the ISBN for the hardcover. At this point in time I am going to just redo the listing (some of the info didnt match exactly, and there are 4 or more publishers of the same book that have both bindings.)

I did set up my email alerts to stop some of the emails, and I would imagine most people do so when they join up or as their needs change.

Thank you so much for your advice! You will be seeing me a lot on the forums, next to reading and crafting I love to get involved in duscussion forums. (I belong to several currently, but havent been as active as I used to be just because I've been busy.)

Looking forward to gettin to know you all!

Date Posted: 2/15/2009 12:05 AM ET
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I've had both success and failure at getting notified that there is a "similar" book available than the one I want.  Usually, it's a HC for a PB, but sometimes there are mulitple PB's that are available and I'm never notified.  So I don't rely on it to tell me all the various but similar available books that are on PBS.  Even though they are the same title and author.

Ruth

Subject: Thank you all so much
Date Posted: 2/15/2009 1:39 AM ET
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for making me feel welcome and comfortable here. After the issues with getting onto the site today, I have FINALLY had a moment to get back on and list some books. And of course in my down time I have talked nonstop to friends about the site. (Many of them are friends from discussion forums) and a few close friends who are teaming up with me on one account......theyre too busy to deal with shipping so I just told them bring me your books and when the book goes ill ship it and then get them what they want. (Hopefully theres no rule about that....some people who have busy lives still love books so why not I guess.)

Anyways I am going to go ahead and re-list the book. After examining the first posting, my ISBN was correct to the book, however when i put in the exact same isbn on the site the information is somewhat different (publisher & pages). I went investigating of course and found that the same ISBN on book for sale sites sometimes is exact and sometimes slightly off. I've come to the conclusion that the same ISBN was used by multiple publishers of this book. The only explaination I could come up with was that the publishing companies (there are 3 or 4 that publish either binding or both) that published the book are somehow connected. (possibly mergered or owned by another company),

UGHHHHH how confusing this can be, but still so much fun!

As far as what you said, Ruthy, when I cant find a version of the book I want on here, I go to other sites and find the other ISBNs or other editions and search again. If I want it bad enough I end up buying it online of course.

I do think that I will send a "suggeestion" to the feedback link explaining that it would be much more convenient for us members to search and when the one we want is there, theres a link or tab to see other versions. at least with that capability we could then wishlist all versions that we are willing to accept even if its a different binding or a year older (especially text books! thats the one I search most.). Who knows, maybe they'll take a note or it and the next time theres major updates, theyll add the concept in.

Thank you all again!

Date Posted: 2/15/2009 2:17 AM ET
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Since this book's ISBN has been reused by different publishers you might want to tag it with that information.

As for the searches - there are different kinds of searches here and they don't always come up with the same info or books.  for instance - go to your WL and resort them by author.  See how many come up (out of alphabetical order) with the author's name listed by middle name or initial.  It happens a lot to me.  It's carelessness by whoever put the data into the database.  You begin to check out all the variations of authors' names! 

Ruth