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Subject: Joanne Fluke "Devil's Food Cake Murder"
Date Posted: 3/16/2011 10:26 PM ET
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Today I found a trade paperback of this book which is listed here only in hardback, large print, and audio books.  The ISBN#'s are 075826593x  and 9780758265937.  It is not an ARC and says publication date March 2011.  The cover pictures are exactly the same as the ones apparently on the HB, LG P and Audio.  I am not a real computer whiz, being a dinosaur who took a lot of my earlier science courses using a slide rule and at home we had an adding machine and a manual typewriter.  (I'm a bit more savvy than that, but not a lot.)  Somebody help me to get this books into the database with those numbers and pictures because there are a great many wishers for all forms of the books that are in the listing!!    Thanks!!  Winston.

Date Posted: 3/16/2011 10:44 PM ET
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One of the secrets is to keep searching for the number.  This can trigger the system to look for it.  This usually takes a few hours.  (Remove any dashes or spaces before searching.)

The problem with this version is that it is not yet listed with Amazon.  One of the main data bases that PBS searches.  I've searched by both numbers.  Hopefully the system will be triggered.

Date Posted: 3/16/2011 10:45 PM ET
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Go ahead and enter this book without the ISBN, there is a way to do that. The wishers will find this book, I promise.

Date Posted: 3/16/2011 10:49 PM ET
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No.  Don't.  This is the correct ISBN for the correct binding.  Don't post it without an ISBN.  Wait a few hours before doing that.

(Posting it without the ISBN is quick.  But it will not link up the books and author.  It will clutter up our database.)



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Date Posted: 3/16/2011 11:02 PM ET
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This # is the Canadian version.

Date Posted: 3/16/2011 11:33 PM ET
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Maybe it IS the Canadian version, but it is published/printed in the US, and the prices listed on the back are the USD $15 and CD $17.95 (Canadian price listed second), so I don't know how one can tell it is the Canadian version.  (Not that I doubt your information.)  I'll just wait until tomorrow or so before trying to list it again.  Looking at all of the wishers for the HB and LP versions, I doubt that it will sit long before it is requested.

Date Posted: 3/16/2011 11:49 PM ET
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Just post the book since you have it in your hands. Enter the ISBN number and click on Check. Just now the system was a little cranky and I had to click it two or three times before the window opened for me to add it the system. It isn't the same as posting as a book without and ISBN, you will be adding it to the database under its ISBN. You will need to add all the information for the book, but it will get listed, and it will get listed by its ISBN.



Last Edited on: 3/16/11 11:51 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/17/2011 12:28 AM ET
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Ah.  Melanie is the one with all those database icons. I totally bow down to her authority.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 1:26 AM ET
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For Canadian and English versions Winston, a reader will eventually recognize the publishers. 

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 4:30 AM ET
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This always happens with Joanne Fluke's books. Different versions are sold at Kmart, Meijers, etc. They eventually show up here but it takes a while. Keep trying, but you may have to wait until it appears on Amazon.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 10:37 AM ET
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Haha, Emily, no authority by in my BD icon whatsoever :) 

I would agree that when a book has its own ISBN that you want it in the system under that if possible and not posted as a book without an ISBN.  There's just no way to know what the database will pickup on its own. I would assume if its not in the db by the time someone has the book, for some reason the db isn't finding it. There's no reason to wait for the system to find it when we have the ability to add books by ISBN ourselves, as long as we have the information to do so. I usually don't encourage people posting the book to the system, but since Winston has the book, he can enter all the details needed. Normally that window to add the book to the db pops open when you try to post, but for some reason it was being cranky last night so I figured maybe Winston just had to be a little more persistant with the system to get to the screen he needed.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 11:23 AM ET
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I did go ahead and enter the book using the ISBN#, though entering all of the information including quoting the back cover and the measurements etc.  Hopefully it will come up ehen people are looking for Fluke's books, which are very popular.  It should, I think, because all of her other books do when I clicked on her name inn my listing.   Frustrating and odd problem that I have never come upon before, though.

If somebody knows how to add cover pictuures to listings, maybe someone would do it for my book.  It is the same picture as that shown when the HB comes up.  I am not computer literate enough to do this myself.  (Or at least have never tried to do so, anyway.)  Thanks to somebody who might be able to help with this.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 11:29 AM ET
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Interestingly enough, there is a copy of this book in paperback listed on Ebay for auction, with 2+ more days to go on the listing which has already gotten up to $9+ which is allmost the cover price.  The seller says she bought it at a book store, so it isn't an ARC, of which one is listed on ABEBooks.com but not this PB.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 11:59 AM ET
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Looks like someone has an image in que for approval for you Winston.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 1:42 PM ET
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I've added a Tag to the HB to lead folks to your book.  At least until the system links them.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 2:08 PM ET
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Thanks, Emily and Melanie.  Perhaps not surprisingly, the book only sat on the list for about an hour before being requested!  The requestor obviously "struck while the iron was hot."  Maybe the "tag" led a wisher from the HB version to this one.

Date Posted: 3/17/2011 6:35 PM ET
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I admit to being the strikee!!  lol

I didn't "find" it, I looked for it after you posted here! 

Thanks Winston!!



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Date Posted: 3/17/2011 7:10 PM ET
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Yes, I know that Cozette is the guilty party----probably would have had to wait a long time for the HB to come up, from the long list of wishers, so---

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Date Posted: 3/17/2011 11:45 PM ET
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I'm 99% sure the UK and Canadian (and other foreign) editions will not automatically get added to the database, so no amount of searching by ISBN will help in these cases. The reason they show up here eventually is because someone does what Winston did and enters all the book info manually. Once it's been entered by one member, then that listing is available for use by anyone else who happens to have that version of the book.

These manually created entries do not get linked to the other versions of the book that are already in the database, which is why it's a good idea to search for your WL books every once in a while, just to see if someone has added a foreign edition. Even if the copy that was originally posted under that ISBN is no longer available, you can add it to your WL in case another member posts one.

If you think you have a foreign edition of a book and you don't happen to recognize the names of the UK and Canadian publishing houses, the next easist way to figure it out is to search for the ISBN on amazon.co.uk and amazon.ca to see where it shows up.

Date Posted: 3/18/2011 12:03 AM ET
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I'm so glad I read the forums -- I'm 2 of 2 wishers!