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Subject: Join up question
Date Posted: 12/13/2009 6:05 PM ET
Member Since: 4/27/2006
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One more question. I want to start an account for someone. I usually just let them into my account and let them choose books for gifts. I would have them start an account and gift them credits instead. How would we do this? any ideas? thanks

Date Posted: 12/13/2009 6:26 PM ET
Member Since: 1/20/2009
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Well if they're someone allowed to have an account (over 18, US address, 1st or 2nd account in their household), then simply let them sign up normally. Then, you can buddy them credits after that.

By the way, letting anyone else have use of your account is a violation of the Terms of Use for the site. If someone wants to find books they want, they can do so without account access, and I would recommend insisting on it. It may not seem like a big deal, but it has led to trouble in the past.

Date Posted: 12/13/2009 6:46 PM ET
Member Since: 7/19/2008
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I think they need a seperate email address.  And while it says credits can't be transfered, this does not mean they can not be given away, except for the first two.

From help:

  1. Membership Eligibility

    This Site may be used only by persons 18 years of age or older. National Book Swap makes no representations whatsoever regarding the suitability of any items exchanged through this Site.

    One Account per Person, Maximum of Two Accounts per Address or Household
    No individual is permitted to have more than one single account at any time. No more than two accounts are permitted per address or household. Only one account per household will be eligible for startup Book Credits.

    No Institutional Membership
    Membership is permitted for individuals only. No organization, institution or other association may become a member or participate of the service.

    Registration in Own Name
    Accounts may be registered only by the individual seeking membership. Registration of accounts in a name other than the registrant's, fictitious or real is expressly prohibited. Such use constitutes fraud and may give rise to criminal prosecution and substantial damages. National Book Swap prosecutes fraud to the fullest extent of the law.

    Transferability
    Your account and Book Credits are not transferable.

    Correctional Institution Inmates Prohibited
    This Site may not be used to ship books to or from any jail, prison or correctional facility of any kind. Inmates at any jail, prison, or correctional institution are expressly prohibited from using this service. By agreeing to these Terms of Use, you acknowledge that you are not currently incarcerated in any jail, prison, or correctional facility of any kind and further agree not to allow your account to be used by any inmate at any jail, prison, or other correctional facility.

Date Posted: 12/13/2009 6:52 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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 I want to start an account for someone.

They can start their own account; but you cannot start one for someone else.

Registration in Own Name
Accounts may be registered only by the individual seeking membership. Registration of accounts in a name other than the registrant's, fictitious or real is expressly prohibited. Such use constitutes fraud and may give rise to criminal prosecution and substantial damages. National Book Swap prosecutes fraud to the fullest extent of the law.

Once the other person has set up their own account, you can gift them credits. If it is someone in your household, it is possible that gifting them credits may trigger TPBST to question them to make sure it is another person, not a second account you might be using.  They can be very touchy when it comes to the issue of one person using 2 accounts.

Date Posted: 12/13/2009 8:33 PM ET
Member Since: 1/20/2009
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I imagine they're touchy for good reason, since one person using multiple accounts is 50% of the time for scamming or potential scamming purposes, and the other 50% of the time someone 'managing' it for someone else who is often underage or otherwise ineligible for an account, or who is not actually responsible for their account.

One account per person is a simple rule, and allows TPBST to hold each person individually responsible for their account. While helping a friend or household member learn how to do something on PBS by showing it to them once is a perfectly reasonable thing (and really if someone is there with you, you should be able to talk them through something without needing to touch anything yourself, and they'll learn it better that way), they're also perfectly reasonable in their expectation that a grown adult who actually intends to use an account on the site should be able to sign up for their own account without someone doing it for them. If they can't do that much, it's logical to assume they won't be the one actually using the account.

For instance, last time I visited my grandma, I talked her through the sign-up process (she's 75, and does great on websites, as long as she's guided through everything the first time) without touching the computer. This time when we're there, I plan to talk her through how to post books and everything, since we didn't have time last time.



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