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Subject: Kindle Fire Frustration
Date Posted: 3/27/2012 10:46 PM ET
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I was given a Kindle Fire for Christmas, and so far I'm very disappointed.  Either I am having a lot of trouble figuring it out (quite possible) or it lacks a lot of features the Kindle Touch has.  I know that the Fire doesn't use the experimental text-to-speech feature that's available on the regular kindles, and now I can't find any way to organize my books into categories.  All I can do is sort them by title,author or date acquired.  Does anybody know if (and how) to set up categories (i.e., history, mystery, sci-fi etc.)?  Are there other features the FIre doesn't have that are available on the kindle?

I have used my mom's kindle touch and it was very easy to use, not to mention a lot easier to read the e-ink format than the Fire's back-lit screen.  It seems to me, so far, that the Kindle is for readers, and the Fire is more geared to gamers and movie watchers....am I missing something?

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 3:07 AM ET
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i don't have a Kindle Fire, i've only played with it in the store - but i think you hit it right on the head with this:

It seems to me, so far, that the Kindle is for readers, and the Fire is more geared to gamers and movie watchers.

while you can read on the Kindle Fire, i wouldn't consider it primarily an ereader.  you can do other things with it, and also read (if you can handle reading on the backlit screen.)

DH got his Kindle Touch today, so we're still figuring out the little differences between that and my Kindle Keyboard.

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 6:22 AM ET
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I don't have a Fire, but from what I understand, the reader app on the Fire is just like the Kindle app on Android tablets. And they definitely do not have the ability to organize by collections. Many people enjoy using their Fires as ereaders.  I vastly prefer reading on my eink screens. I have a rooted Nook Color with the Kindle app.....I use it for picture books mainly, for my kids. It's also good for reading a novel in the car at night. The back light doesn't bother my DH when he is driving. 

Ellen, let us know how you like the Kindle Touch.

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 6:28 AM ET
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jayelsee, if you can find a way to sideload an app called coolreader you can definitely organize your books in that. Also, FBreader.  Both of those are android apps. They work great on my rooted Nook Color, and also on my modified Sony T1.

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 6:51 AM ET
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Looks like a Kindle fire update is coming

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 8:50 AM ET
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What about thru Calibre?  With my Sony, the tags I add to the books in Calibre transfer over when I put them on the Sony. 

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 9:46 AM ET
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Thanks for all the good info!  I'm definitely going to look for app for organizing, and good news about the update.  I think I may still get a kindle touch for the e-ink and the text-to-speech feature.  When I was researching what to get, I had narrowed it down to the Kindle Touch or Fire, but hadn't decided which to get yet (and hadn't realized some of the Fire's short-comings as an e-reader) when my kids gave me the Fire.  I actually really do like it, and use it a lot for movie & TV watching, email on the go etc.  I've also figured out how to organize by collections on kindle-for-pc so I'm doing that now.   Liking it more as I learn more about it, but that text-to-speech feature & e-ink...may just be worth getting a Touch for me.

Date Posted: 3/28/2012 5:20 PM ET
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Oh I agree, having both is the best way to go. I use my (dual-boot) Nook Touch for a tablet, can watch netflix, browse the web, etc. But I have 3 e-ink readers and I like them best for reading novels! I'd love to try out a Kindle Touch some time.  I got a SOny touch (T-1) and it is really awesome. I got it instead of the Kindle Touch because I wanted to be able to create multi-level nested folders, and also put in an SD card. I also have 2 Kindle Keyboards. 



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Date Posted: 3/28/2012 6:12 PM ET
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Oh how i love you all. I so fit right in here. 

I told my hubby that i might want a Kindle Fire for Christmas and he immediately mentioned that i could then give my Kindle Keyboard to so and so. Oh no no no....not going to happen. I want both!  LOL     I am so very attached to my Kindle thats its not going anywhere anytime soon, but i do kinda sorta want the Fire, not so much for the reading as i much prefer the e ink for that, but for the other fun stuff i can do with it. 

Date Posted: 3/29/2012 5:14 AM ET
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Ellen, let us know how you like the Kindle Touch.

ah, well it's DH's.  other than the part where i loaded it with some books i knew he'd want too i'm not sure how much i'll get to play with it.  ;)  it was kind of freezing up at first too, but after it got connected to wifi and updated itself it's been working fine.  i didn't particularly like the feel of the touch screen, so it isn't something i'd want to touch often.  that's probably just me - too spoiled by the smoothness of touching my phone screen.  there's one thing i use regularly on the Kindle Keyboard where we haven't found an equivalent on the Kindle Touch, so that would be annoying - the part where you can sort by author/title and then type M to go to the start of the the M authors/titles.  though i may ask him if i can borrow it long enough to read the (short) user manual to see what it says.

Date Posted: 3/29/2012 2:36 PM ET
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Well I suffered a moment of insanity, and ordered a refurb Fire...

Date Posted: 3/29/2012 8:14 PM ET
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CRIPE girl ....  LOL    So how much for refurb?

Date Posted: 3/29/2012 9:23 PM ET
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They had them briefly for $139. I had some GC money so it cost me less than that.

If I don't like it I can return or sell it and not lose any money.

I think the Easter bunny is gonna crap out a Fire hehehe

Date Posted: 3/30/2012 12:20 PM ET
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WOW thata a good deal!  IF you decide you dont want it let me know LOL  Only ones I saw were from $175 to way over $200 cripe! 

Date Posted: 3/30/2012 1:31 PM ET
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I know, that is why I just couldn't help myself!

It's here, and I don't think the bunny is getting his paws on it. I think it's gonna be mine. Though I haven't had a chance to do more than charge and register. I have to get some work done and get to the post office. And list some more junk on ebay. Maybe tonight I can have some play time....

Date Posted: 3/30/2012 1:36 PM ET
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Let us know what you think after you play with it a bit Anne. You just dont know how very tempted i was!!!  I refrained though. There is a nurse that i work with on Fridays that got one this past Christmas and i told her to bring it so i could play with it a bit. Ive only ever seen it online and in adds, i want to see it in person! Anyway if she remembers hopefully i'lll getta play with one for a few today, to see what i think.

Subject: typing this from my fire
Date Posted: 3/30/2012 5:20 PM ET
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Date Posted: 3/30/2012 5:31 PM ET
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I just wish I could load Calibre on my iPad.  Think I should see about sorting and saving a catalog of my books so I'd have it as I go out and about.  (Have an old Nook and the iPad.  But there are books in the Kindle app, the Nook app, and on iBooks.  I need one complete list.)



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Date Posted: 3/30/2012 6:23 PM ET
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goodreads.com is a good place to manually input your books. You could even designate a book as to whether it's Kindle, Nook, etc.

Date Posted: 3/30/2012 9:07 PM ET
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But then I'd need wifi to see the list. Great at home where I'm connected. Not so great at a bookstore or at the library sale.
Date Posted: 3/30/2012 9:49 PM ET
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True. I can't think of a good way to do that, unless you make text files or word documents, but that sounds like even more work than I would want to do.

Date Posted: 3/31/2012 7:58 AM ET
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Regarding the Fire: I love it WAY more than I ever thought I could. It is the coolest little thing I have ever owned! I read on it in bed last night and couldn't even tell it was an LCD screen. When I finally told DH he was like, how many of those things do you have now? (5, but the Nook Color is the kids')  Of course he says I can sell the Nook since I have the Fire...haha! The kids aren't getting their grubby little hands on my Fire! Yes I am keeping all 5.  I have 2 kindle keyboards - 1 is mainly for my daughter. (Or any of my kids who wants to read on it). The other KK has the free 3G...not giving that up!!!  And my new Sony T1 which I LOVE. They all have a purpose!

 

Anyhow I love the user interface, I love the Carousel, I love everything about it so far, still learning it of course. But don't regret it at ALL.

Date Posted: 3/31/2012 9:09 AM ET
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The one thing I Love about my Coby Tablet is you can put apps from different stores on it & it has Micro SDCard slot!  I have ALL my ebooks on 1 & dont Need Wifi to see what books I have or to read!   Always have list of the ebooks at my finger tips LOL

Date Posted: 3/31/2012 6:59 PM ET
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I'm still thinking I'll get a Kindle Touch or keyboard so I can use the text-enabled feature.  Can't decide whether it would be worth the extra money to get the KT w/3g or just the cheapest keyboard since I already have the FIre, but then I'd still be dependent on WiFi.  Any opinions?

Date Posted: 3/31/2012 10:07 PM ET
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jayelsee, just keep in mind, the 3G is different on the Kindle Touch and the Kindle Keyboard. The 3G on the keyboard model can browse any website. The 3G on the Touch will only go to the Amazon store.

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