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Subject: Kindle Paperwhite, Kobo Glo, Or ????
Date Posted: 12/26/2013 8:35 PM ET
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Have the Choice of Any Ereader I desire for Xmas... Suggestions?

Thought I wanted the Paperwhite..Got the Newest one.Now Not So sure...

I Want Backlight, Great Battery Life. I have a serious Hate relationship with propriatary format. prefer to Enter Files/Formats off of My Computer.

THought i would Love the Ease of accessing My Amazon freebie Finds via the Kindle. However I have Tons more on my Computer an I am HAting the Idea of Learning to Sideload on the Kindle ( not interested in using the Amazon Cload to load my Erader, would rather downlaod and Transfer to a different format to read on my Computer and Phone.

I have an old Sony that I love but it doesn't love me and since it isn't backlit gives me a headache after a couple of hrs use.


 

Would love some input? any suggestions? Hints, tips, gems of wisdom???

thanks

Ladystyx

Date Posted: 12/26/2013 9:07 PM ET
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I have zero experience with Kindles.

I, too, have an older Sony eink ereader that I love.  Have to sideload everything but I don't mind that at all, I like having a backup on my computer of everything because I'm endlessly suspicious of whatever site I've bought from closing or deciding not to sell the ebook I've purchased anymore so I can't re-download.

Anyway, you want backlit.  There's the Nook Glow.  I have no experience with that either.  I do have a Nook HD that I absolutely love.  Have never tried sideloading it.  I do have some non-B&N purchased ebooks on it that I downloaded thru an app I installed on it.  Nook HD is a tablet, you have access to the Google Play store and they have books there you can buy.  I don't mind reading on it at all, even for longer periods of time.  I have Dropbox installed on my Nook HD so I can easily transfer files back and forth between my laptop and the Nook HD.  I suppose that works with ebooks.

I'm sure Anne'll be along eventually.  She's tried LOTS of ereaders and tablets.  She says good things about some of the Kobo machines.

Date Posted: 12/26/2013 9:22 PM ET
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I do NOT recommend the Nook Glo if you are planning to side load books from other places.  B&N has added a formatted storage to the Touch and Glo, so there is very limited space for books from other places.  I'm hitting the storage space all the time, having to delete books for space.  

The Kobo Aura and the Kobo Glo are pretty spiffy so far.  Both have the slot to add a memory card.  Both have a separate on and off button just for the light.  

Basically, all of my experience is with black and white eInk, not tablets.  My DH has a Kindle he loves, I just really dislike the idea of being trapped at one store and format.  

ETA, the Kobo is working very happy with my Calibre.   

I got mine at my local Independant book store.



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Date Posted: 12/26/2013 9:30 PM ET
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I will admit i am not into a tablet, due to the Fact it will be snagged by my DH and kiddos and not available to me as an Ereader. So I want one that is a dedicated reader. I just want to read, not connect to the Web, Prefer I dictate what is on my Ereader not having it upload anytime it is around a  Wifi connection.

I am trying to not get Sucked into propriatry formats and Storage. I was figuring I could learn or figure out a way to sideload to the Kindle. However if I didn't have to I would Love that. Love that My old Sony uses a SD card.

Love to Hear that the Kobo is calibre compatable. thanks Emily.

LAdystyx


 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 2:13 AM ET
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I have my wifi sync turned off on my new kobo.  Do need to connect it once in a while, just to keep the time accurate.  So far, Kobo has not loaded me up with free sample junk of James Patterson.  (Why would B&N ever think that was okay?  So wrong.)

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 3:55 AM ET
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I am trying to not get Sucked into propriatry formats and Storage. I was figuring I could learn or figure out a way to sideload to the Kindle. However if I didn't have to I would Love that. Love that My old Sony uses a SD card.

unless the Kindle Paperwhite is significantly different from the Kindle Keyboard, sideloading seems just as easy on the Kindle as it is on my phone or on the Nook Touch.  no Kobo experience.  however, if you've already got lots of your books in epub and prefer to keep buying them that way, then you do have to convert them to MOBI to read them on the Kindle, and that can be a significant time investment.  i use Calibre for all my converting needs, and usually sideload the Kindle through it too, but if i'm in a hurry and just need to add one file, i just drop it in the documents folder on the Kindle.  nothing fancy about the sideloading.

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 9:53 AM ET
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Anyway, you want backlit.  There's the Nook Glow.  

This isn't backlit. It's font-lit like the Kindle Paperwhite.

There are no eInk machines that I know of that are backlit. The eInk is like an etch-a-sketch and filled with material that creates the images on the screen. So far, they can't put a light behind that, just in the front of it. I have a Kobo Aura, a Kindle Paperwhite (1st gen) and Nook Glowlight. I like the Kobo Aura light the best of the three, but they're all basically the same science.

Some of the eInk readers need to be connected to use, but then after that you don't ever have to turn wifi on at all. All my stuff is sideloaded.

I agree not to even consider the Nook Glowlight 2nd gen. No MicroSD card and tiny storage means it'd be hard to load with enough books for me to bother with. The first gen Nook Glowlight is seems fine, but it did have screen problems at first. Mine is fine, but now you'd probably need to find a used one which may have inherited some of the original screen problems.

Any time for any of the eInk readers and tablets I've used you have to sideload in some way. My Kindle Paperwhite (1st Gen) is just as easy to sideload as the others. But I use Calibre to manage my collection and they have plug-ins written in order to handle the different devices easily. Anything in Kindle format (.azw) or mobie format (.lit) can be opened in a Kindle. (And any DRM'less format can be converted to .lit by Calibre without any other plug-ins)

How much work it would be would depend on what format your collection is in. You can hack the 1st Nook Touches and Nook Glow to load various reading apps on it, but that takes some experience and would void your warrantee. Not something you'd want to jump into.

I will admit i am not into a tablet, due to the Fact it will be snagged by my DH and kiddos and not available to me as an Ereader.

A tablet may suit you best, but you have to take control of it. Don't put any games on it, just put eReader apps on it. They are all backlit, you can adjust the light, the Kindle, Nook, Kobo and Sony apps are available for Apple tablets and Android tablets. So you can read proprietory formats from those stores, or upload compatible formats. You also don't have to connect to wifi if you don't want to.

I have a Nexus 7 (1st Gen) and it's a very nice, sharp little machine. It is heavier than an eInk machine, and because of the backlight will burn a charge faster. It's also hard to see in sunlight. I also have a Apple Ipad Mini which I'm reading on now. Much lighter and thinner, but costs a ton more.

You don't have to load anything on either of them you don't intend (or want) on there. So don't load anything that might cause anyone else to want to walk away with it. (Or just them it's off limits. Period.) Neither tablet is connected to wifi unless I want it to be. 

On the Nexus I can file my books in folders, just like on my computer, by using a file manager. Click on a book and it asks what program I want to open it in. Or I can use Calibre Companion and load books into that. Or use the bookstore apps directly.

On the Apple I can also file my books in folders, using a file manager. Same way to open the books. Same book store apps available. I use Marvin to read my books on, and connect straight to Calibre and load them from there. 

Any way you go, unless you use a book store app you'll have to learn to sideload. To load everything into one reader, you'll have to learn to remove DRM from your collection. The easiest, all around, is a tablet and apps. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 10:10 AM ET
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Cindy thankss for the info/Correction. I should have Put it needs to be Lit Not BackLit. I Do understand that a tablet appears to Be the Best Fit...backlit and Able to read Several Apps/formats... however it Is absolutely Not an Option for my situation.

Main Issue I have is BAttery life... add that to several Other issues and It is just not Worth the effort Exspense to go that route.

Loving the info I am Getting.  Keep it coming.

LAdystyx

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 10:20 AM ET
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Main Issue I have is BAttery life... add that to several Other issues and It is just not Worth the effort Exspense to go that route.

If you need to stay eInk, then I think it's just easier to adjust the format of your books to match a machine you like. They're --all-- proprietory in their own ways, since producing the eInk reader is their way to get you hooked on their book store.

Once registered, none have to have wifi on. And all lights can be turned way down if not off. They all have a bit different weight, look and feel to them. Sony is now pretty much out of business in the US. (You can find them in Canada, but Sony won't ship to the US.) Kobo's are available in the US from a few stores, but you can order them from Canada on-line.

There are some UK machines, like the Trekstore Pyrus and some others. I've only played with a mini one of those and it liked the .fb2 format better than the ePub. I'm not sure how easy some of them are to get.

Now that you have more info, what exactly would you change about the Paperwhite and yet still stay with an eInk machine? 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 10:40 AM ET
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I am still gathering info. I will admit i love the Fact that the Glo has the ability to use a SD card and is in Epub  (which over 95% of my books are already in)

LAdystyx

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 11:19 AM ET
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I will admit i love the Fact that the Glo has the ability to use a SD card and is in Epub

Just make sure you go for the 1st gen, not the 2nd. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 11:41 AM ET
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did it lose that in the second gen?

 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 12:05 PM ET
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did it lose that in the second gen?

The Nook Glowlight, 2nd Gen, lost the MicroSD card slot, and now has only 500 megabytes of the 4gig storage space for sideloading. The rest of the room is blocked off for only book purchased from Kobo.

Here.

Since the Nook is compatible with EPub files you can load books from local libraries and some other ebook stores (Kobo, SonyGoogle Books), so it’s possible to migrate a library here if you decide to leave another ecosystem. Just don’t count on keeping a ton of non-B&N books on your Nook. There’s no MicroSD card slot on this generation GlowLight and of the 4GB of space on board, 2.5GB are available for books and 2GB of that is reserved for B&N content. That leaves 500MB for other books.

Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/ebook-reader-reviews/barnes-noble-nook-glowlight-review/#ixzz2ohCRazbs 
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Date Posted: 12/27/2013 1:28 PM ET
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The Kobo Glo has a memory card slot.  This is a Glo and Glow issue. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 1:30 PM ET
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thanks for the Clarification and Info.

i am looking at the Glo. Will need to Do Better in my names/titles.

LAdystyx

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 5:07 PM ET
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I do need to add one comment.  Kobo is in Canada.  B&N Nook is rather infamous for their customer service.  Amazon is incredibly wonderful if you have a problem with your machine. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 5:23 PM ET
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If I had to choose only one device, and it couldn't be a tablet, and it had to be lighted, I would choose a Kobo. Either the Glo, the Aura, or the Aura HD. In fact the Aura HD is probably the best of that lot, but I haven't had one to try. I have the Glo and it is great. Using Calibre to side load, I have it set so that it creates shelves automatically, and also the series name and number is present. Another great thing about the Kobo, you can tap "details" and read what the book is about (as long as the metadata has that info in the "comments" section). I've not been able to do that with any other reader.

I NEVER connect the wifi on my Kobo, except for when I first get it to register it. I do not like what happens with syncing. I do not want to "upgrade" my firmware.

I'd say, if you are able, get the Aura HD for $169. That is really the best thing out there. The screen is almost as large as a tablet screen, very sharp, and the device has an SD card slot, in addition to 4gb on board storage.

I had the kindle keyboard, the paperwhite 1, and the paperwhite 2. The functionality of my kobo beats them all into the ground. I no longer have any kindle e-ink readers.

 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 6:53 PM ET
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After being on a Nook, I must say that I really love the font, font size, and light dimmer settings on the Kobo Glo and Aura.  Wide choices and easy to find.  I do not have to go to settings and back.  

I do not have to guess what "medium" or "large" means, as that seems to differ with every publisher on my Nook.  Instead I get a slider with a sample.   This makes it so wonderful if I do not have my reading glasses with me.  Easy switch from large font without glasses to small font with them. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 7:14 PM ET
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I have to say, my Kobo Aura is my new favorite eInk. The selection of fonts fits me better than any of the others. Quick, easy to use and classy looking. It's a keeper for me. And the Kobo mini is just too cute. smiley

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 8:10 PM ET
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I love my kobo mini, too. I want one with a light.

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 8:19 PM ET
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I have a Nexus 7 which I love.  Able to load all the readers like nook, kobo, amazon etc.  You also have the functionality of email, internet etc.   I also have a Nook HD which is great.  To me not quite as spiffy as the Nexus 7 but that may just be me.  I also love the Kobo and if I ever get another, it will be a Kobo.

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 8:41 PM ET
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Okay so What is the Differences between the Kobo Glo, Aura, andd Aura HD?

Ladystyx

Date Posted: 12/27/2013 9:06 PM ET
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The Kobo Glo is last year's model.  Still better than the Nook Glow.  The Kobo Aura HD is a large reader, about tablet sized.  It is suppose to have very fast page turns.  Largest eInk reader available.  The Kobo Aura is this year's model of the standard sized eReader.  The glass front is smooth, like the iPad, rather than having a lip.  The screen is huge for the size and weight.  All three are black and white eInk touch screens, with a light.  They all have a memory slot and a separate light button on the top center.  The on off button is on the right side of the top.

The Aura and Aura HD have this beveled back, to feel book shaped.  They are angled, to help you grip.  The Glo has the older style quilted back.  The Aura comes in two colors, the glo in five, and the HD has three.  

I do miss the side page turn buttons from my Nook, as I can't use my Glo inside a plastic Baggie.  (Tub reading.)

All three got very positive reviews.  Kobo is marketing to be the top of the line eReader, rather than price matching.

Whoops.  I'm mixing up Glow and Glo.  



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Date Posted: 1/2/2014 3:47 PM ET
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Good news...you can now order the Kobo Aura from Best Buy!

And the Kobo Glo too!

 



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