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Subject: Did you know this? (re: checking out/in library ebooks) *UPDATE! Don't do i
Date Posted: 2/15/2011 9:43 PM ET
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I was on the B&N forums today and someone posted a great tip.

Did you know that you can immediately return a library ebook (in ADE) once you've loaded it onto your Nook? That way, it's available right away again to others and as long as you've loaded it to your Nook, it will be there for you and available to read until it's checkout period is up.

DUH! I didn't even think of that! I've been checking them back in when I'm done reading, but it's usually a week or so later when I'm done reading them. Now I know to check them back in as soon as I've loaded them onto my Nook so that the wait line moves a little faster for others.

Just thought I'd share in case others hadn't thought of that. wink Carry on, lol.

 

**UPDATE!! Ugh, DON'T do this! I'm so bummed right now! I had two library books out. One I was a good way through, the other I hadn't started (but had a long wait line and finally got it downloaded.) I had them both loaded onto my Nook, and had it turned onto Airplane mode. Either I messed up and updated my Nook with B&N (via Wifi) after I checked the books back in, or something...but one of them is not available on my Nook anymore. Of course, it's the one I've been reading...and now there's a wait line. Darn! The other one is still on my Nook somehow, but I hesitate to even start it because I don't know if that one will become unavailable, too.

Also, I posted below that I had two other books I'd previously checked back in that were still showing on my Nook (and readable) but they're not available either. The checkout date for the one I was reading expired on the 22nd, so it's not gone because it expired. It synced up with ADE somehow after I checked it back in...even though I was careful not to do that. And I still have another one available on my Nook that's been checked back in with ADE, so I dunno.

So, I'm sorry I posted this tip without testing it out more first. It must be true because a lot of people on the B&N forums do it all of the time, but I messed up somehow and don't want you all to run into the same issue. So, proceed at your own risk I guess. :(



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Date Posted: 2/15/2011 9:50 PM ET
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I read that some where also!  yesGreat Tip!!

Date Posted: 2/15/2011 10:06 PM ET
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What a great idea! I will do that! 

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 1:18 AM ET
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No, I didn't know that! Thanks for the tip, I hope everyone who borrows from the library eventually figures this out so the wait lists decrease!

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 5:15 AM ET
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Great tip. The only problem I can foresee is if there is a problem with the download on the Nook, like the file gets corrupted or won't reopen, you won't be able to re-download the eBook once it's been returned to the library. If there are 70 people on the waitlist, you will be at the end of the line, assuming you put yourself back on.

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 8:06 AM ET
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I've got a couple on my Nook right now that aren't holding my interest and I intended to return them today. I'm going to experiment with them a bit. I'm assuming if I return them, then the copy that's on my PC will no longer open and wouldn't be a backup if the copy on the Nook is corrupted, as EveDallas said. Wonder what would happen if I pulled my internet connection first, so it couldn't communicate. (I don't have WiFi on my computer.) 

Something to play around with. Thanks! 

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 8:41 AM ET
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No, I had no idea about this.

I have not tried to get library books yet.

But that is handy to know when I do! Thanks.

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 9:57 AM ET
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Yes, it's true that you won't have a backup copy on your PC any longer once you check it back in. I've been opening and flipping through the books on my Nook just to make sure there are no problems before I check them back in with ADE.

If you do this, just don't sync your Nook up with ADE until after you're finished with the book. If it's not in ADE anymore, and you sync your Nook then the library book will likely be poofed off your Nook (but I don't know this for sure, just a guess).

Marilyn (so nice to see you "out and about" more - hope you're feeling close to your normal again!) - if you pull the internet connection, you wouldn't be able to check the book in early in ADE. And as soon as you check it in with ADE, it disappears...so I don't think there's a way to still keep a copy on the PC after it's checked in. If you find any cool tricks though while you're playing, let us know!

 

I've also discovered that when you check a book back in before its due date and it's already loaded to your Nook, it will still be on your Nook and readable. So I'm wondering if after the initial checkout period is up on them if it will still be readable as well. If so, you could check out library ebooks, load them to your Nook, and then check them back in with ADE for others and still have it on your Nook to read until you manually deleted it. I haven't tried opening one after the initial checkout time has expired, so this is just a theory. (Has anyone done this?)

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 3:12 PM ET
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Update in first post. I wouldn't recommend this after all. Sorry! :(

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 8:58 PM ET
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Thank you for the extra information, Kelly. Nice of you to come back to tell us your experience. 

I haven't tried anything yet. Had a busy day. 

Date Posted: 2/16/2011 9:39 PM ET
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Well thats interesting!  My Litirati still has 2 library books I working on....  They have been returned to the Library a week ago!  Well it only goes to the Kobo store when WiFi is on.  & I havent connected to my computer!  So maybe that the trick?? 

Date Posted: 2/17/2011 2:58 AM ET
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Thanks for the update Kelly. I'm sorry you lost the eBooks and have to go to the end of the line. As much as I applaud you and the other people who want to return eBooks early to help others, don't do it at your own expense. Everyone has a right to the same allotted 21 day checkout and the safeguards of being able to re-download the eBook if there is a problem during your time. Person number 20 realizes that when he signs onto the waitlist. He will just have to wait his turn. If you finish and return an eBook early, great, but don't screw yourself in the process. You have a right to the same amount of time as number 82.



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Date Posted: 2/17/2011 5:12 AM ET
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I tested this out with a book I own in paperback that was available for immediate checkout. It worked!

I would suggest doing a trial run with a book you don't care about just to make sure you do it correctly.

1. Check out the book and download it to ADE.

2. Drag the book into the nook icon on ADE.

3. Immediately eject your nook so that it is not hooked up to your computer.

4. Return the borrowed item.

5. Read and enjoy!

Pretty cool, but I wonder if that is how it was intended to be used. 



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Date Posted: 2/17/2011 11:51 AM ET
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Jennifer, thanks for the test run! I did exactly as you did though, which worked at first. But after reading the B&N forums, I think it may be because I'd started reading a different book because when I came back in to start reading the library one, it gave me the unavailable message. eta: They say on the forums over there that if you keep the library book open and don't open/read any other books, it should remain available on the Nook even after being checked in. So that's a possibility.

I know I downloaded all of my B&N content first and then turned Wifi off. Then I hooked my Nook into ADE and transferred my newest library book over (the one I still have access to, even though it's been checked in). Then after I unhooked my Nook, I turned the two library books in (one I was reading and the newest one). It seemed to work great, and I got excited. Then the next day, all but the newest one were unavailable.

I'm definitely going to play around more, but I'm probably going to heed EveDallas' advice and just keep them in ADE until they're read. Luckily, the wait line for the one I was reading isn't too terribly bad, but it wasn't a very smart experiment on my part to use a book I was really into. LOL



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Date Posted: 2/17/2011 2:43 PM ET
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The other thing I forgot to mention is that if you need to charge your nook, you should NOT do it through your computer. As soon as you plug it back into your computer, that library book you have is gone.

Date Posted: 2/17/2011 6:34 PM ET
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That seems like a lot of work and safeguards that need to be instituted just to move the eBook along for other people.

Date Posted: 2/17/2011 8:19 PM ET
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If people get impatient they can just Buy the darn ebook!  Just like on the WL here!!

Date Posted: 2/17/2011 9:58 PM ET
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OK my 2 weeks on the Library book I was reading just timed out!  I got Locked out LOL  I was wondering if you can keep them forever LOL guess not!!  Same thing happens on the Audiobooks! Time up Poof they vanish!

Date Posted: 2/18/2011 7:17 PM ET
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Saw this over on the Amazon Kindle board:

Teacher Lady, there is a work-around for expiring library books through Overdrive. When you get your notification that a book is ready for you to download, when you click on Download, and it comes up with the box where you choose OPEN or SAVE, click on SAVE and save it where you can remember, I have a folder on my desktop called "Library Books". Then when you are ready to read it, open that folder, double click the one you want to read and it will automatically open ADE and download the book. Your 21-day loan period starts at that time.

[later] You are very welcome. I learned this tip on Kindleboards and it's been great. Seems like if I have several books on my Wait List, they all become available at the same time, then I felt under pressure to read them all within the 21 day time frame. This way I can read them whenever I'm ready.

I have not tried this, but I offer it FWIW.

It's about the 10th post down on this thread: http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1D7SY3BVSESG&cdThread=Tx1MB8OQEA77GEV&displayType=tagsDetail

Date Posted: 2/20/2011 7:47 PM ET
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WOW! There's some really great advice here!  I'm new at all this  e-book stuff and it's wonderful to see how so many PBS folks all band together to help each other out.  Ever since '06 when I first joined, I have been impressed with how much feeling and care is shared here.  PBS has been really inspirational for me and I'm sure for many, many others!  Keep up the great work everyone!

Blessings,

Katz

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Date Posted: 2/20/2011 10:26 PM ET
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FYI - this works on the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch platform too - if you use Overdrive.  Download the book to Overdrive on your device.  It will remain on the device for the entire check-out period.  Then, I can download the book on my computer into ADE.  In ADE, I can return the book.  It stays in the Overdrive software until the expiration date.  However, I read my library books in Bluefire Reader (instead of Overdrive) - and this doesn't seem to work with that software.

Date Posted: 2/20/2011 11:17 PM ET
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Oh, Katz, I feel the same way. PBS is unique in my experience. 

Date Posted: 2/21/2011 11:26 AM ET
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Marilyn, thank you! I'll try that next and see what happens. I'm still able to access one of my books I checked in early and isn't in ADE anymore. The other one that I was reading and disappeared became available again, but I've only put it into ADE because if I sync my nook up with it, the other one I started reading will disappear. LOL! It's a good thing they're both excellent books or this back and forth would drive me batty. :)

Katz, I totally agree! Love PBS!

Date Posted: 3/2/2011 11:48 AM ET
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Marilyn, that sounds really good.  I'll have to try it. 

A couple of weeks ago, I discovered that I can continue to read a book or books that are on my reader after the expiration date as long as I don't re-connect to the computer.  I haven't had a problem switching between 'expired' books on the reader either, just as long as I don't connect. 

I 'stumbled' on this when I was downloading a library book and noticed that one I was reading had expired.  I tried pulling it up in ADE and, of course, I couldn't.  Went back to my reader and no problem!  Fortunately, I finished it before I re-connected (it was Dewey, the Library Cat, btw, and I recommend it!), but had a second title that I had missed noticing that it had expired.  As soon as I connected to ADE to download the new title, both of the expired ones were disabled.  They don't disappear from my reader, but when I click on them , I get a 'failed to open' message.

Oh, one other thing - my reader does NOT have wifi, so I only have to remember NOT to manually connect to my computer...

Date Posted: 3/2/2011 12:56 PM ET
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As long as you don't connect your E-Reader via Wi-fi or through your computer to the internet, you shouldn't have a problem with the rights expiring until they actually expire.  I've done this with my Sony PRS-505 a few times.

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