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Subject: You know what I'd like to see?
Date Posted: 11/6/2008 10:21 AM ET
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On every book listing, I'd like to see numbers -- members wishing or copies available -- every time the book is displayed in any format.  Instead of having to add it to your wish list or reminder list, first, then checking the status with another click.

I think it would be a lot more efficient. If I have a book I'm thinking about posting, I could see immediately what the demand for the book is -- if there are people wishing, post it! of course. If there are 5 copies in the system -- maybe post it. If there are 40 copies in the system, don't bother! Donate it to the FOTL sale, or take it to the local UBS, or set it free with bookcrossing.

Date Posted: 11/6/2008 10:24 AM ET
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I agree!  The more information, and the more streamlined, the better :)

Date Posted: 11/6/2008 10:31 AM ET
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Send a suggestion email.  The more people they hear this kind of stuff from the better.  I also suggested that it would be helpful to be able to see the order/post/wishlist history for everybook, not just the top 50.  That way you could differentiate between a book that has 150 copies in the system that currently only has a couple copies ordered a month and a book with 150 copies that has 50 copies ordered a month.

Date Posted: 11/6/2008 10:58 AM ET
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I'm beginning to think they really don't want you to know how many copies of a book are in the system.  That's why they make it so difficult to get that information.

They always have a headline at the top of each page that says "2,616,718 books available".  I think they are afraid that number would go down if we knew how many copies of that John Grisham or Danielle Steele book were already posted.   



Last Edited on: 11/6/08 10:58 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/6/2008 2:05 PM ET
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<<If there are 5 copies in the system -- maybe post it. If there are 40 copies in the system, don't bother! Donate it to the FOTL sale, or take it to the local UBS, or set it free with bookcrossing.>>

I've posted several books that had over 50 copies in the system (one was in the 100's) and they have been requested.  I don't know if someone was looking at my shelf specifically or I finally made it to FIFO.  I wouldn't let the fact that there are 40 copies in the system stop me from posting.  If it's over 300 then maybe, but certainly not less than 100, especially if you might run 2 for 1 deal.

Date Posted: 11/6/2008 3:05 PM ET
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IF I had a John Grisham book I'd look at lot closer and think about posting it.  There are OVER seventy different versions of his books on the wish list!!!!!!!!!   You just might have one of them.   Telling you that there are 80 copies of The Painted House in the system does NOT mean that there is no one wishing for another edition of it.

Date Posted: 11/7/2008 12:56 PM ET
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If there are 40 copies in the system, don't bother! Donate it to the FOTL sale, or take it to the local UBS, or set it free with bookcrossing.

 

Actually, because of a recent "lost in the mail" wish list snafu, I ended up with two copies of a book that had over 50 copies already posted.  I went ahead and posted the extra copy immediately anyway -- not a big deal to me if it sat here for awhile, and I figured my copy could start working it's way through the system.  Amazingly, someone ordered it from me so quickly, I hadn't even had a chance to read it yet.  Just speculation, but I'm guessing they pulled up my book list for some reason and found it there. 

Date Posted: 11/7/2008 4:24 PM ET
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I would love to be able to see it at a glance also.  I don't like having to do the reminder list thing.

 

Date Posted: 11/7/2008 4:41 PM ET
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I would like to be able to see what position I am on the WL without having to hover over the little gray exlamation point. It's not a big deal, but I'm not quite sure why it doesn't just show up automatically.



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Date Posted: 11/9/2008 7:45 AM ET
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I'd like to see how many of a particular book are in the system too. I think that information is probably intentionally hard to find, though, because if it were easier, people might not post the more common books. (Personally, I'd post them anyway, because I know they'll be requested eventually and don't have a problem storing them until they are. Besides, there aren't any used book stores around here where I could bring them, and I refuse to throw away a book.)

More than that, I'd love to see how often a particular book is posted and how often it's requested.

Date Posted: 11/9/2008 8:20 AM ET
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IF I had a John Grisham book I'd look at lot closer and think about posting it.  There are OVER seventy different versions of his books on the wish list!!!!!!!!!   You just might have one of them.   Telling you that there are 80 copies of The Painted House in the system does NOT mean that there is no one wishing for another edition of it.

 

But when I have a book in my hands and I'm going to enter it, I use the ISBN NOT the title..... doesn't everyone do that?  Then you would know immediately if there are people wishing for it or not.  And, it would be nice to know that there are 200 copies in the system immediately. 

 

Matt C. (mattc) - ,
Date Posted: 11/9/2008 9:51 AM ET
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I assume Cozi was saying to check the ISBN to make sure it wasn't one with multiple copies, not to list it under the wrong ISBN.

I personally would like to see how many copies/wishers there are for a book when I see a listing.  I don't mind listing a book with a lot of copies, in cse someone decides to order extra stuff from my shelf or take advantage of a deal, but there are a lot of reasons I might be curious.

Date Posted: 11/9/2008 4:14 PM ET
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Yes, yes, yes, I agree whole heartedly!  With all the changes and upgrades being made over the past few months, this is one change which should be moved to the top of the priority list.  Having to add a book to my reminder list everytime I want to see how many are in the system is a pain.  SwapaDVD (and maybe SwapaCD) already tell how many copies are in the system, and it's really handy. 

Date Posted: 11/9/2008 9:24 PM ET
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Here's another voice in favor of showing how many copies are in the system without having to bother with the reminder list.  It is an annoyance for sure.

I always post a book by its ISBN. but you can always enter the title of your book first, then click on Search Wishlisted, then click on the type of format of your book, and it will give you an idea of how many want that title.

Regarding the wishlist, don't always be dissuaded from posting a book just because there are already many copies of your particular ISBN;  I have found that there may be literally dozens of people wanting other ISBN's of that title.  You can always post on the "Different ISBN" thread or start one of your own.  Also, some folks have the notification turned on that another version of their book has been posted.

 

Date Posted: 11/9/2008 9:35 PM ET
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I've found that being a boxer is a great way to exchange those more common to PBS books.  But it would be awesome if you put the ISBN in and it said how many were posted like on Swapadvd.  If you put the books ISBN in and bring up the listing it'll say if there's anyone on WL.  If it says "Post This Book" and "0 members wishing" than it's not WL but it's not posted under that ISBN either.  But it is annoying to have to put a book on your RL to see how many are posted.  I periodically post a couple abundant books to my shelf before I've read them so they can work their way up FIFO. Although I don't recommend putting too many on there like that: I recently had to send out 2 books I hadn't read yet in BOB deals.  I would have declined them but my library had copies so I accepted and sent them out. 

Date Posted: 11/10/2008 10:22 AM ET
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Sign me up!

I hate having to put a book on the Reminder list just to see how many copies are listed....

 

PS:     A Time To Kill  0440211727
by John Grisham has 1,339 copies posted--the last 600 members could have used this info

*He has several PB under this title



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Date Posted: 11/10/2008 10:46 AM ET
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Oh I am so tempted to order that book just to see how many it times out on before it gets accepted.  Is that the most posted book on PBS?  We should make a thread with an ongoing list of books that have say over 100 copies or 200.  Title it something like: "don't waste your time posting these books"  I was actually thinking about starting a game using these abundantly posted books.  Maybe offer 2 books: 1 an unpostable WL book and one that has to have a minimum of 50 copies posted.  Just to be silly.



Last Edited on: 11/10/08 10:47 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 11/15/2008 10:50 AM ET
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Amen on the counts. I'd also like to know how many copies of each ISBN have been traded through PBS in the past week, month, and year - although that will matter much less when the new wishlist goes in.

Been pondering how to change the system so that 1st in line has the best chance of getting the book they want (and vice-versa for senders - 1st in line has the best chance of sending it out) but it's complicated - you have to account for requestor conditions, 48 hours vs auto-request, and which of the requestor, sender, or total books swapped is more important.... may want to use different rules depending on if there are more books than requests, about the same, or vice versa (demand = low when e.g. 10 more copies than requests - requestors important, high 10 more requests than copies respectively - senders important, normal otherwise, 10 may be tweaked for transaction volume)....