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Subject: Larry McMurtry
Date Posted: 2/26/2010 4:24 PM ET
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First thank you everyone who told me Lonesome Dove was a great read.  I am less than 100 pages from the end and it has been awesome, possibly one of the best books I've ever read.

Has anyone read any of the other three in the LD series: Dead Man's Walk, Comanche Moon and Streets of Laredo?

Date Posted: 2/26/2010 4:42 PM ET
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I read Streets of Laredo, it was okay, but didn't come close to being as good as LD.  I tried one of the prequels, but DNF.  IMO nothing can compare to Lonesome Dove, so is therefore a disappointment.

Linda

Date Posted: 2/26/2010 5:09 PM ET
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I was underwhelmed by Streets of Laredo also. I loved, loved, loved Lonesome Dove. The mini-series is also excellent and very true to the story!

Date Posted: 2/26/2010 5:53 PM ET
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I wanted to watch the mini-series so I looked it up on IMDB- some well known names in it.  I haven't been to Blockbuster in forever but I'll have to see if its there so I can watch it.



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Date Posted: 2/26/2010 7:36 PM ET
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I loved Lonesome Dove as well, but have never been able to get into any of the others.  The mini series is wonderful.

Date Posted: 2/26/2010 11:40 PM ET
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Just let the other titles go, Holly; all McMurtry was doing was trying to capitalize on the success of Lonesome Dove - and that's just about how they read -  "made for public consumption" pulp.

McMurtry did write another couple of books that may be worth reading, but, in my opinion, if you want to read more historical fiction with a western setting, you can absolutely not go wrong with Elmer Kelton. And, Linda & I have read a lot of Elmer Kelton in the past & can share some titles with you if you're interested.

All that said, nothing stands up to Lonesome Dove. Holly, have you finished the book yet? When you started this thread you still had 100 pages to go ... I can't remember what all you would have known 100 pages out ... did you or did you not need the Kleenex box?

Kelly

hoo boy, and the movie ... sigh ...



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Date Posted: 2/28/2010 9:15 AM ET
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Holly, I have to agree with what was said above. I read Streets of Laredo and it doesnt match up to Lonesome Dove. However, I actually have Comanche Moon on my HF Challenge this year. If you liked Lonesome Dove, you may like his books Anything for Billy and Buffalo Girls. I read them in high school and absolutely loved them. (I am rereading them for the HS ABC challenge) Buffalo Girls is about Calamity Jane and Wild Bill Hickock. Anything For Billy is about Billy the Kid.

 

And if you havent seen the mini-series, it is a must. Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duval really bring Woodrow and McCrae to life.

Date Posted: 3/2/2010 8:56 AM ET
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I started reading Streets of Laredo, but when July Johnson got killed off in an aside less than 20 pages in or so, I threw it against the wall. He killed my favorite character, book AND mini-series, in such a "eh, whatev" manner. July deserved more respect than that.

I've read the other two, Dead Man's Walk and Comanche Moon, though. Liked Comanche Moon better - that skinning scene is probably the only time I've gotten nauseous reading a book outside of a moving vehicle. :P DMW wasn't nearly as good - had some WTF moments, like the veiled opera singer dispersing the Indians by singing Abagail's caballetta from Verdi's Nabucco. I think I literally LOL'd.

So I think you'd be best sticking to Lonesome Dove. Wish I had.

Date Posted: 3/7/2010 12:14 PM ET
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Kelly-hubby and I sat down and watched all of it last night.  The book was better but the movie was really good too.  There were a couple of roles I felt were miscast.  I had July Johnson, Dish Boggett and Clara all different in my head but Gus and Call were perfectly cast.  We started it at 9ish and it took  us til almost 3 am to finish :)

Date Posted: 3/7/2010 1:27 PM ET
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I've never read Lonesome Dove, and now you've made me add it to my TBR list.  (Notice I said "made me"...it's not my fault my TBR pile is growing!)

The one book by him I did read was Terms of Endearment and I loved it.  It was SO much better than the movie.  I would recommend it...and I wouldn't mind reading it again.  Ha.  There goes another book on the pile!

Date Posted: 3/7/2010 1:40 PM ET
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Holly,

I was slightly concerned that you may have watched the movie too soon after reading the book ... just for the reason you mentioned; the movie actors & their character interpretation not matching up with your ideas from reading the book. And, no doubt, the book is much better than the movie; but not to the same degree as other 'book-to-movie' fiascos! Probably because Lonesome Dove was originally written as a screenplay & only later developed into the amazing book it is.

The only one I continue to this very day to think was miscast, over-directed & over-acted was Anjelica Huston as Clara ... just did not work at all! Blech!

You are so right about Gus & Call ... I think those were probably the best roles ever for Robert Duvall & Tommy Lee Jones; also Ricky Shroeder as Newt; & Frederic Forrest as Blue Duck. And I love Diane whatever her name is - I always refer to her as just "Lorie Darlin' " regardless of what movie she is in. (Fortunately my family all know who I mean!)

Glad you enjoyed it; was it fun having a movie marathon with your husband? Those are fun times! No hurry on returning the movie, Holly; you may want to watch it (or parts of it) again in a couple of weeks ...

Kelly



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Date Posted: 3/8/2010 4:15 PM ET
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I liked Houston as Clara - or, rather, I disliked her as much in the movie as I did in the book. She wasn't the most friendly character in either version. I thought Barbara Hershey softened her up a little in the TV sequel, Return to Lonesome Dove, which I didn't mind. I enjoyed both movies.

Date Posted: 3/9/2010 1:31 PM ET
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I've never seen the sequel but I can totally picture Barbara Hershey as Clara.  Even though they didn't match up with what I thought they would be in the movie, July and Dish grew on me. 

I asked the hubby if he wanted to watch it again.  He gave me an emphatic NO!  I know he liked it though.  He's usually sawing logs on the couch by 11 pm and he stayed up til almost 3 am to see how it ended so he can't fool me :)