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Subject: lazy or policy (postal workers)
Date Posted: 6/12/2008 10:54 AM ET
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I heard the mailman on the street so I went out to grab the mail. I get to the end of my driveway only to find a notice that i wasnt home to get my package. lol well I was here he never came up to deliver. So I wait for him to come back by and asked him what the problem was. He tells me its policy that they are not allowed to come up our driveway. Now I have never heard anything like this and told him a few days ago I had a package put on my porch. He said well that shouldnt have happened and our neighborhood has a dog issue. Now keep in mind I ahve never seen a dog running loose in my neighborhood ever. So lazy or policy that is the question?

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 11:00 AM ET
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Huh - weird.  My postal workers always leave packages on my porch, whether I'm home or not.  And the fact that he changed the story from the driveway to the dog makes me suspicious.  Is there someone at the post office that you can contact to find out?

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 11:19 AM ET
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Im not even mad about it I just find it funny because I do think he's a liar and was caught in his own lie. I just smiled, listened said thank you. Inside though I was laughing cause I pretty much knew that was a lie and so does he. I guess I should have asked him why he crupples up my mail when he puts it in the box. He has destoyed my mail, delivered it to the wrong houses and now he cant deliver it LMAO. Oh well : )

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 11:40 AM ET
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How would he know you're not home if he can't come to your home to see if you're home?  And I thought "What is the meaning of life?" was a difficult question!

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 11:46 AM ET
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That seems like a very odd policy to have. I would call your local post office and ask to speak to whoever is in charge there (I forget the correct title to use here...sorry!) and ask them directly. It may be true, but it sounds a bit fishy to me.

Also, have you asked on the Post Office forum? There are a lot of postal carriers who are members of PBS there who might be able to shed some light on this for you.


Date Posted: 6/12/2008 11:47 AM ET
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I've had similar problems with the UPS guy. I'll be sitting in my living room, and he'll claim to have knocked on the living room door (which of course he didn't because I was sitting right there folding laundry!). I walked by the door as he was writing up one of those "Hey, sorry we missed you, please pick up your package at the nearest location!" slips. The kicker is that he refused to give me my package because he had already started writing out the slip!

I would call the post office. What does he expect you to do? Wait out at your mailbox everyday for the mail?

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 12:13 PM ET
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Thats nuts.  What a lazy butt.

My mail man is awesome!!  He will come up to the door.  If I am not home he will either put it begind the door, or if one of our cars is out front, he will put it in the front seat and leave me a note.


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Date Posted: 6/12/2008 12:17 PM ET
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My postal workers always leaves packages at my door.  Your postal worker's lie sounds very fishy, not like a regular USPS  policy at all.

(Of course, you never know.  I was told by several USPS workers that postal carriers are under NO obligation to pick up mail from your mailbox that you leave to be sent out and mail it out, and this is policy.  When they do take your mail to mail it out, they are doing it as a courtesy!)

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 1:10 PM ET
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My postal worker comes to the door and rings the bell if a package won't fit in the box.  So I think your mail man is making excuses. And I do have a dog problem in my neighborhood.  The leash laws/loose dog laws aren't very strict or enforced around here and someone's dog is always wandering around the neighborhood. 

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 2:33 PM ET
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If there's a policy that they cannot come up to the door to see if you are home, then what's the point of even carrying the package with them?  If that were really the policy it would seem to me that any package that wouldn't fit in the mailbox would automatically generate a "pick up at post office" notice rather than a "you weren't home" notice.

In any event, that policy wouldn't work in my neighborhood -- the mailboxes are all next to the front door, so the carrier has to go up every driveway!

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 3:03 PM ET
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Our neighborhood is like Kristen's --- the mailboxes are all at the front doors anyway.   So, package or not, the postman has to come right up to the door to deliver any mail.    We've never had any problems with packages being delivered.  

Where we used to live, it was roadside mailboxes - but the postman would *always* bring packages to the door.  Depending on the carrier, sometimes they would ring the bell, sometimes they'd just leave them there on our porch - but they would always deliver them.   I agree w/ others - sounds like your mailman is just making excuses.

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 3:22 PM ET
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My mail girl leaves the packages by the door and rings the doorbell. I would definitely call the post office and find out.

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 3:46 PM ET
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It pays to call or go to the post office. We had a postman once who returned a priority package saying we had moved (the post office policy is you have to hold it so many days to be sure, besides we hadn't moved). He made it worse by lying about it so when the package was returned with his handwriting on it he was forced to apologise to us and was taken off the route soon after  that (a very cushy route).

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Date Posted: 6/12/2008 4:50 PM ET
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Our mailman won't deliver to our mailbox at the door if the inside door is not shut. My beagle HATES anyone at the door, especially the mailman. We got a new outside door (not because of him). It's a heavy one that locks 101% secure.  But if the doors open, we get no mail that day.  His supervisor says he is totally justified. We were going to move the mailbox, but we just agreed to have the inside door shut to ensure door delivery.

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 6:33 PM ET
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Our full-time route driver always leaves packages in my car or in the garage. The part time guy actually brings them right up to the front porch. Sounds like your mailman is feeding you a line.

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 6:48 PM ET
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(Of course, you never know.  I was told by several USPS workers that postal carriers are under NO obligation to pick up mail from your mailbox that you leave to be sent out and mail it out, and this is policy.  When they do take your mail to mail it out, they are doing it as a courtesy!)

This is true, the postal carrier does not have to pick up outgoing mail from your mailbox, it's simply courtesy.

Date Posted: 6/12/2008 7:31 PM ET
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I live in a 3rd floor apartment. My carrier only brings about 1 out of every 3 packages up to my apartment.  I didn't complain for a while, but she rarely leaves a pick-up slip either,. So unless I know something is coming, I may never know I have a package to pick up.  When I complained they told me they would speak to her about not leaving pick-up slips, but she wasn't required to bring packages upstairs. 

Date Posted: 6/13/2008 7:05 AM ET
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My mail carrier hardly ever leaves packages at the door - usually she'll put them in a plastic bag and hang them on the mailbox if they're too big to fit inside. I don't blame her though; my driveway is really steep.

Date Posted: 6/13/2008 1:40 PM ET
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I had to drop so mail of today so outof curiosity I asked about the "policy". Without saying much she said she knew who I was talking about. I told her what he said and asked if this was true.She said only if the driveway is 1/4 acre long. He can say no if he has been attacked by a neighboring dog, that is up to the carrier to take that risk.  So she said she was going to speak to him and find out what the issue was. UGH now I wish I didnt even ask because now what will he do to my mail.

Date Posted: 6/13/2008 2:18 PM ET
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The kicker is that he refused to give me my package because he had already started writing out the slip!

OMG, You are kidding me!!!  I seriously hope you called and complained....what a nut job! 

Date Posted: 6/13/2008 6:41 PM ET
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In out area we have lots of temp and part-time carriers, and they seem to have the right to decide what they will deliver and what they won't on any given day.  Media Mail gets treated this way especially badly.  Our mailobox is down on the main road (rural), but the normal delivery person comes up the dirve with most packages.   My daughter had trouble with her mail person putting any mail in her box at all claiming that the mailbox didn't meet USPS regs.  They measured and redid the mailbox position and she still wouldn't deliver. So they had to get the local Postmaster involved who apparently had words with that carrier.  It took weeks to get their mail back on track.  Another of my friend's mail carrier would trash her mail and throw it around the area.  Not a nice guy.  They couldn't get rid of him.  They wouldn't even move him off the route.  Maybe the route was the worst one and my friend didn't know it so had the worst guy???

Date Posted: 6/13/2008 10:59 PM ET
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I think they should make special mailboxes for PBS members ... maybe the size of a large garbage can ...