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Subject: Les Miserables 1989 abridged
Date Posted: 1/3/2013 2:04 PM ET
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I don't have much experience here so please move this to the correct forum if need be.

 

This book is 1989 abridged. The ISBNs look the same as recent editions, but it has 334 pages instead of 400. This is probably due to font size?

I would like to:

Attach a note that wishers could read before they wish it.

Avoid losing a credit since it may not be exactly what they expected.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Date Posted: 1/3/2013 2:18 PM ET
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Patrick,

 

I don't think anyone but you can move this post.  And it probably belongs in the Book Bazaar.

(I just found my copy of Les Miz last night.  Hope you find a taker.)

Date Posted: 1/3/2013 2:41 PM ET
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I think the post is OK here -- Patrick is posing a question about he should proceed. 

There is no way to attach a note to your specific copy of a book for a requestor to see. 

Is this ISBN currently wish listed (WLed)? 

According to the Help Docs, the 4 things that have to match are Title, Author, ISBN, and Binding. In addition, if the title says a book is large print, the copy you post has to be large print.

Is this case, the fact that it is abridged might be relevant. 

If the PBS entry for this book says "abridged" or doesn't say anything, go ahead and post it. If you want to be especially diligent, send the requestor a personal message (PM). Mention the abridged status and the page numbers. But I don't think this is necessary, and can potentially open up new problems with people losing their spot in line, waiting for a response that never comes, etc. 

If the PBS entry for this book says "unabridged," I would probably make a new post in the Book Bazaar about all the details of your copy. I'm not sure that would be allowed if the book is WLed, however, since one is not supposed to advertise WL books. 

 

Hope this is helpful. 



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Date Posted: 1/3/2013 3:14 PM ET
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As Regina said, nobody can move your post -- there are no formal moderators here with those tools.

If the ISBN listing doesn't already say so, the title field should read "Les Miserables (Abridged)", and the author field can include the name of whomever did the abridgement, if that information is available.  If you're not sure how to do that, send me a PM and I will help you.

Page numbers are a non-issue -- that's not one of the criteria you need to meet when posting.  But it does need to be clear that the edition is an abridgement, since they aren't all that common and members likely would not expect to get one, unless they intentionally sought it out.  If it appears that both an abridged and an unabridged edition are sharing an ISBN, and the title field does not state it is abridged, you'll need to list it as though it did not have an ISBN, as you would when shared ISBNs mean that a binding or other key feature does not match.

Date Posted: 1/3/2013 6:42 PM ET
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Are you saying the book is abridged because the page count is different or is the book actually abridged.  Abridged means some of the book has been removed ot make it shorter. The page count difference could jsut mean that one has a bigger font, more blank (unnecessary pages), more extra stuff in the back like book club questions etc..., 

If the edition you have has had stuff removed from the actual story to make it shorter than it was originally then you might have to post it without an ISBN.  Unless the listing says it's abridged.

Date Posted: 1/3/2013 9:16 PM ET
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What Sophia said yes

Date Posted: 1/3/2013 10:20 PM ET
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Mary, the unabridged version of Les Misérables is over 1000 pages. It's probabably either a font size issue, or someone else did the abridging. 

Date Posted: 1/4/2013 2:38 AM ET
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Thanks, everyone has good points.

Is this ISBN currently wish listed (WLed)?

No, but dozens of similar, more recent entries are. There are also dozens of page lengths.

the title field should read "Les Miserables (Abridged), and the author field can include the name of whomever did the abridgement

It does and it does. Not sure yet if the abridgement credit is the same.

 

I will look into this a bit more.

Date Posted: 1/6/2013 5:25 PM ET
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Just Curous,

Since abridged and unabridged are not part of the 4 things that must match, would that be a RWAP, like large print? I've never heard this mentioned.

 

Date Posted: 1/6/2013 5:56 PM ET
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If the mention of "abridged" or "unabridged" is in the title line, then IMO it would be on a par with Large Print and would have to match.  Other opinions on this?

Date Posted: 1/6/2013 7:27 PM ET
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Yes Patty, IIRC that is the policy of TPTB...if/when it's defined in the PBS book data.

Date Posted: 1/7/2013 12:19 PM ET
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Patty,

That makes sense.

Denise,

What are you referring to when you say:

if/when it's defined in the PBS book data.

Thanks,

Nancy

Date Posted: 1/7/2013 1:08 PM ET
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Yes Patty, IIRC that is the policy of TPTB...if/when it's defined in the PBS book data.

I would say not "data", but title. If it just says it in the description, then I would say no, it didn't need to match and the site admin would take the stance that the requester needed to do research and find out what they were requesting. But the Title has to match exactly, so if the title line mentions abridged or not, then that needs to match the posted item or the item cannot be posted to that ISBN.

Date Posted: 1/7/2013 10:39 PM ET
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What Melanie said yes