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Subject: Let's choose ten categories for 3Q 2012 /completed
Date Posted: 6/12/2012 10:51 AM ET
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For the third year in a row now, we are having a year-long science fiction reading challenge on this forum.  And starting in 2012 we're trying new quarterly group-consensus topical challenges as well.  For 1Q 2012, this process resulted in the Full Spectrum Challenge that ran January 1 through March 31, and then for 2Q 2012 in the Firsts Challenge that started April 1 and will end June 30.   For 3Q 2012, running from July 1 through September 30, we have just selected "Awards Challenge"  in a Lets Choose Topics thread.

From a high level, the selection process works like this:

  • Step 1 - Select a broad topic within Science Fiction, before the quarter starts.
  • Step 2 - Select ten categories within that broad topic, before the quarter starts.
  • Step 3 - Read a book for any 3, any 6, or all 10 categories, within the quarter.

This thread is for purposes of Step 2.  I will start the ten-category nomination process by putting "NOMINATE NOW" in the headline of this thread, and by seeding some nominations.  Any one else can nominate additional categories, and we will discuss for at least three days, on this thread.  After that time, I will change the headline of this thead to say "VOTE NOW", and keep the poll open for at least another three days. 

Then I'll close the poll and post the final ten category list for the challenge.  Seed nominations will be in my next post.

-Tom Hl.



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Subject: seed categories nominated
Date Posted: 6/12/2012 11:01 AM ET
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Our broad topic is "Awards".  I'm seeding the process with the following ten nominations:

  1. a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  2. a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  3. a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  4. a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  5. a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  6. a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  7. a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  8. a winning novel of any SF award
  9. a Nebula Awards anthology
  10. view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner

Please give your thoughts about these categories, nominate others if I missed something you want to see.  I'll announce the start of voting after discussion settles down, in at least three days.

-Tom Hl.



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Subject: thoughts
Date Posted: 6/12/2012 12:36 PM ET
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Good list - it allows for everything and takes into consideration what we voted for.

Award winners for Tiptree and PK Dick?  Yousa, that will be a challenge for me. I've already read the 2012 winner for the PK Dick Award, nothing else catches my fancy in either award categories.  Hmmm...



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Date Posted: 6/12/2012 4:24 PM ET
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I'd like to see:

  1. a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  2. a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  3. a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  4. a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  5. a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  6.  a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  7. a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  8. a Prometheus Award winning novel
  9. a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog
  10. a best of the year anthology (containing AT LEAST one award winning short story) or a Nebula awards anthology

On the whole, it's a great list.  I'd like to expand the choices for anthologies and put a bid in for the Prometheus award.  They have some great fiction on their list.  I wouldn't be able to complete the viewing portion of the challenge as I have no TV, so I've added reader polls other than Locus.

Date Posted: 6/12/2012 9:29 PM ET
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@Alison - I hope it is clear that Tiptree and PK Dick categories would be for winners from any year.

@Lisa - My understanding then is that you are nominating three more candidate categories -

  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)

@Lisa - Would you be able to watch a movie/video on a computer?

-Tom Hl.

Date Posted: 6/12/2012 9:46 PM ET
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Hmmm. . . love all the categories suggested so far, voting's going to be a challenge. . . I'll propose a couple more though, 'cause I do that sort of thing. They're more expansive options of some already existing categories, really, because I like having more choices.

#14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work

#15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee

Mostly because I've read quite a few of the winners of both of those awards already, and so my pickings are getting kind of slim! ;)

Date Posted: 6/13/2012 1:09 AM ET
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Sometimes I can have things play fine, other times it's like watching a Ray Harryhausen movie.  And of course, some things just won't load at all.  Usually the longer they are, the more trouble I have.  My computer is a bargain basement hp, but since I didn't get it with video in mind, I can't complain too much.

Date Posted: 6/13/2012 11:09 AM ET
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  @Alison - I hope it is clear that Tiptree and PK Dick categories would be for winners from any year.  - CLEAR

CLEAR!! 

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a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)

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Mostly because I've read quite a few of the winners of both of those awards already 

Slim pickins for me as well.

Prometheus award and a readers poll award would also be good categories.

Oh yah, now that I think of it --------Well, I just checked the Hugo dramatic presentation awards -  I've seen almost everything on the list including the Apollo 11 news coverage (live) - every Twillight Zone episode multiple times, and (let me count)  there's only 4 things I haven't seen.  What the heck is Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along-Blog????  So that category wouldn't be much more for me than rewatching some old movies, which I'm pretty sure I've seen within the past 20 years.



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Date Posted: 6/13/2012 12:13 PM ET
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I like the nominations so far and don't have anything further to nominate.  I can tell I'm going to have to go book shopping.

Tiptree should definitely include nominees also.  There's less than a dozen winning sci-fi books on the list. 

Lisa, I can sympathize.  No tv here either.  And while I could watch videos on my pc, if I'm not absolutely enthralled in a movie within the first 5-10 minutes, it generally gets turned off.  I have a very short attention span for videos, I guess.

Alison, I've never heard of the Dr. Horrible's thing...  But, hey, it's from the guy who did Buffy and Firefly, so how bad could it be?

Subject: polls open
Date Posted: 6/17/2012 8:53 AM ET
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The poll is now open to select the ten categories of our 3Q 2012 SF Challenge "Awards".  Each voter, whether they have partipated in the process up to this point or not, gets to vote for not more than 10 categories, and I will tabulate the winners some time after the poll closes on Wednesday June 20 at 11:59pm CST.  I will break ties if necessary.  At that time I wil post the resulting challenge on a new tracking thread and a new discussion thread.

In order to vote, you can cut and paste the following block - and either cross out or delete the categories you don't want.  You may come back and re-edit your vote up until the time polls close.

  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #5 a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  • #6 a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  • #8 a winning novel of any SF award
  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #10 view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee


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My vote is:

  1. a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  2. a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  3. a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  4. a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  5. A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee 
  6. A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work 
  7. a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  8. a Prometheus Award winning novel
  9. a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog) 
  10. a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)  
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Date Posted: 6/17/2012 4:27 PM ET
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  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #5 a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  • #6 a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  • #8 a winning novel of any SF award
  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #10 view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee



 

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  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #5 a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  • #6 a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  • #8 a winning novel of any SF award
  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #10 view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee
Subject: my votes
Date Posted: 6/18/2012 1:50 PM ET
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  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #5 a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  • #6 a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  • #8 a winning novel of any SF award
  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #10 view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee
Date Posted: 6/18/2012 11:12 PM ET
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My votes:
  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #5 a Philip K Dick Award winning novel
  • #6 a James Tiptree Award winning novel
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award
  • #8 a winning novel of any SF award
  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #10 view a Hugo Dramatic Presentation Award winner
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee
Subject: results
Date Posted: 6/21/2012 6:12 PM ET
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Here is a tabulation of the voting

Categories that received 5 votes

  • #1 a Nebula Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #2 a Hugo Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #3 a Locus Award winning novel, or nominee, 2010 or later
  • #7 a winning novel of a non-US-based award

Categories that received 4 votes

  • #4 a multiple award winning novel (example: Hugo+Nebula)
  • #11 a Prometheus Award winning novel
  • #13 a best of the year anthology containing AT LEAST one award winning short work (which would include Nebula anthologies)
  • #14: A James Tiptree, Jr. Award winner or short-listed work
  • #15: A Philip K. Dick Award winner or nominee

Categories that received 3 votes

  • #9 a Nebula Awards anthology
  • #12 a winning novel from one of the reader polls other than Locus (eg Asimovs, SF Site, Analog)

Because we want exactly ten categories, only one of the 3-vote categories can be included.  I chose to eliminate #9 because it overlaps with #13 that had already been included.

I will post the tracking thread and the discussion thread shortly.

-Tom Hl.