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Subject: Let's choose a topic for our 1Q 2012 SF Challenge /completed
Date Posted: 12/2/2011 2:12 PM ET
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For the past two years, we've enjoyed year-long science fiction reading challenges on this forum, and now for 2012 we're going to try something new.  Quarterly group-consensus topical challenges were selected; you can find the discussion regarding this at http://www.paperbackswap.com/2011-SF-Challenge-NOVEMBER-DECEMBER/topic/249680/.

We are aiming to have the reading list categories ready for posting by December 16.  A minority disagreed with the concept, and so Bob K. has put up his own idea for a year-long challenge, similar to 2010 and 2011.   I recommend you wait to see the categories that emerge from this process before committing to either or both of these separate challenges.

From a high level, it will work like this:

  • Step 1 - Select a broad topic within Science Fiction, before the quarter starts.
  • Step 2 - Select ten categories within that broad topic, before the quarter starts.
  • Step 3 - Read a book for any 3, any 6, or all 10 categories, within the quarter.

I've agreed to serve as moderator for the first quarter of 2012, which will span from January 1 through March 31, 2012.  This thread is for purposes of Step 1.  I will start the nomination process by putting "NOMINATE NOW" in the headline of this thread, and by naming three broad topics.  Any one else can nominate an additional broad topic, and we will discuss for at least three days, on this thread.  After that time, I will change the headline of this thead to say "VOTE NOW", and keep the poll open for at least another three days. 

Then I'll close the poll and start a new thread for Step 2.

So, drumroll please, the first three nominations for 1Q12 Science Fiction Challenge topic are:

  • Time Travel - backward, forward, sideways, lightspeed time dilation, cryogenics, etc.
  • Apocalypse - end of civilization, humanity, life, the world, or the universe, survival after the end, afterlives, etc.
  • Full Spectrum - as wide a selection of subgenre within science fiction as possible

-Tom Hl.



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Date Posted: 12/3/2011 1:03 AM ET
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I'm a little unclear on the "Full Spectrum" option. . . ?

As for proposing a broad topic, I'd propose science fantasy, defined as broadly as possible, meaning any book that melds in some fashion things considered traditionally science fictional and things considered traditionally fantastical. ;)

Date Posted: 12/3/2011 8:46 AM ET
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Yup, science fantasy is very workable as a broad topic. Thanks for the nomination! Left on my own, I would make Full Spectrum consist of one each from the major subgenre of speculative fiction - hard sf, social sf, space opera, science fantasy, fantasy, horror, time travel, alternate history, etc. But given that paperbackswap has decided to partition sf into just the two "science fiction" and "fantasy" forums, and this is on the science fiction one, we'll probably be scewed more in that direction. It would be decided by the voters for categories, but I would encourage a deliberate spread.
Subject: I nominate AI
Date Posted: 12/4/2011 1:16 AM ET
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artificial intelligence - man vs machine, singularity, legal issues, moral issues, human augmentation, virtual reality/star cave stuff, AI as benefactor

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Other categories I'm thinking about:

on-line - I've noted several new books where on-line gaming becomes part of the story 

Mayan end-cycle - hmm, I guess that could also be considered apocalypse 

parallel universe(s) 



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Date Posted: 12/4/2011 2:28 PM ET
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I like Full Spectrum. Even though I love Apocalypse stories, reading 6-10 of them in a quarter is going to burn me out, plus, I doubt there's that many left I haven't already read. Same could be said for Time Travel and AI. I'd like to see them as catagories under the Full Spectrum, though. :)

Science Fantasy would be another workable broad topic. I'd like to do more Award Winners, too. Perhaps that's too broad...maybe restrict it to one award or one decade per award.

Subject: new nominations
Date Posted: 12/4/2011 7:55 PM ET
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Zylyn,

Ok, we have a nomination for Artificial Intelligence for broad category. Thanks!  I just read a slew of cybernetic AI and biological SF for the expanded 2011 categories, so there's a lot of ground there.  Personally, I just finished a bunch of books on that topic, but if it's the consensus, I'm sure I will find some more.

Jasmine,

Are you are making a nomination of Award Winners, or just raising the idea?  My only suggestion would be to name it so that it could include categories of Award Runners-Up as well.

Bob K.,

I'm not sure what you're doing there with your own challenge.

-Tom Hl.

 

Date Posted: 12/4/2011 8:01 PM ET
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Just raising the idea; something to think about for the next quarters. I'll officially vote for Full Spectrum this quarter.

Subject: we'll start the vote on Dec 7
Date Posted: 12/4/2011 8:45 PM ET
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The original idea was to give the discussion about five days to settle out.  Maybe that will evolve as we go, but for this first time, I'd like to stick to the original plan, and set up the official voting next Wednesday December 7.   But if someone was planning to be away, I think we could take your vote in advance...

-Tom Hl.

Subject: Award winners
Date Posted: 12/5/2011 10:40 PM ET
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This would be a really good category  !!! 

Subject: the process
Date Posted: 12/6/2011 12:37 PM ET
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Two people have mentioned Award Winners, and so I'll make it a topic nomination.

I'm feeling the selection process as originally outlined is stretched out more than necessary.  So I'm going to shorten it from 5 days per nomination and 5 days per vote, to 3 days each.  In that way we should be able to have the final category list by approx. Dec. 16.  If anybody feels rushed at any point, just speak up.  Putting up the poll shortly...

-Tom Hl.



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Subject: Polls are open
Date Posted: 12/6/2011 12:57 PM ET
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The nominations for 1Q 2012 SF Challenge topic are:

  1. Time Travel - backward, forward, sideways, lightspeed time dilation, cryogenics, etc.
  2. Apocalypse - end of civilization, humanity, life, the world, or the universe, survival after the end, afterlives, etc.
  3. Full Spectrum - one each from the major subgenre of speculative fiction - hard sf, social sf, space opera, science fantasy, fantasy, horror, time travel, alternate history, etc.
  4. science fantasy, defined as broadly as possible, meaning any book that melds in some fashion things considered traditionally science fictional and things considered traditionally fantastical.
  5. artificial intelligence - man vs machine, singularity, legal issues, moral issues, human augmentation, virtual reality/star cave stuff, AI as benefactor
  6. Award Winners (and Runners-Up)

Please consider which you would might be interested in participating in, and vote for one, two, or three of them, but not more, by posting on this thread.  You can come back and edit to change your vote as long the polls are open. 

Polls are open from now through Friday December 9.  On Saturday December 10, I will start the thread for discussion of ten categories within the selected topic.



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Date Posted: 12/6/2011 4:33 PM ET
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We can vote for up to three, right? So I vote for:

Full Spectrum

Science Fantasy

Award Winners (and Runners-Up)

Subject: Tom's vote
Date Posted: 12/6/2011 9:02 PM ET
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First, let me say that I'd be interested in reading in all six of these.  But I have to pick, so my votes are for:

 

Time Travel - I've always enjoyed this, and it seems to crop up in all the subgenre. 

Science Fantasy - I don't know too much about it, but enjoy exploring boundaries.

Award Winners - Somehow, these usually tend to be good books.

Brad -
Date Posted: 12/7/2011 7:46 AM ET
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1. Apocalypse
2. Award Winners (and Runners-Up)
3. Full Spectrum

Subject: vote
Date Posted: 12/7/2011 9:49 PM ET
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1. Award winners
2. Artificial Intelligence
3. Full Spectrum 

 

Subject: polls close soon
Date Posted: 12/9/2011 9:27 PM ET
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The vote ends later tonight.  Last chance!

-Tom Hl.

Subject: "Full Spectrum" wins for 1Q 2012
Date Posted: 12/10/2011 10:06 AM ET
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I tallied up the votes this morning, and I have two dilemmas.

1) Jasmine voted before the vote was officially announced, and may not have known that we were each allowed up to three.  I PM'ed yesterday, but have not gotten an answer yet, so assume Jasmine has just been away from the computer for the past few days.   So I decided to count that one vote.

2) After that, there is a tie between "Full Spectrum" and "Awards Winners and Runners-Up".   I would like to break this tie quickly, so have chosen the following method.  Personally, I am happy with either choice, and withdraw my personal vote on them.

The results are

  • 4 for Full Spectrum - Jasmine, Phoenix, Brad, Zylyn
  • 3 for Award Winners - Phoenix, Brad, Zylyn
  • 2 for Science Fantasy - Phoenix, Tom
  • 1 each for Time Travel, Apocalypse, and Artificial Intelligence

I'll be setting up a new thread for selection of ten categories of "Full Spectrum" shortly.

For sure, we will have Award Winners as one of the seeded topic nominations for 2Q 2012.  Especially given that the process kicks off approximately March 1, and the 2012 Nebula nominations should be announced around February 20.

If you have any feedback on the process of selecting the broad topic, feel free to comment on this thread.