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Subject: Library (hard) reinforced paperback - Okay to match ISBN, list as paperback
Date Posted: 2/27/2016 10:17 PM ET
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I have an ex-library book. It's a mass market paperback.  The library that had it re-inforced / re-bound the entire cover.  The result makes it look and feel like a hardback.

Two Questions, I guess.

1) Since the change was just made by this one particular library, the ISBN# of course wasn't changed.  It's still technically the mass market paperback.  Officially, would it be okay to post it on PBS by its ISBN (which is for a mass market paperback)?

2) Even if okay to post "as is" by the ISBN# on PBS, would the average requestor be okay with it having been reinforced, which makes it look like a hardcover?  I could always PM the eventual requestor to let them know and give them the opportunity to decline (or accept).

WWYD?

-- Jill

Date Posted: 2/27/2016 10:29 PM ET
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Hi Jill, the binding you describe is called turtleback, there is a website called turtleback.com. Most times the books that are made into turtlebacks are not available as hardcovers.  There are books posted as turtlebacks. I think your best option is to post without an ISBN because your binding does not match the original ISBN. You can create a unique PBS ISBN that way and note the binding type in the book data section. If it's WL you can also add a tag to the real ISBN that it's been posted under unique ISBN 123456. Also, you can use the book bazaar to advertise it.

Date Posted: 2/28/2016 3:02 PM ET
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I second Linda R.s advice. It is now a turtle back, not a paperback and receiving members WILL object to it being listed as a paperback. I am always bummed when I get one, expecting a paperback, and having to enter the RWAP process.

Date Posted: 2/28/2016 3:24 PM ET
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Thanks Linda and Sally.  I was already feeling that it could cause swap problems if posted under the ISBN.

Linda, thanks for you in-depth explanation of turtlebacks and for the website.  I had up to now been confused with the term turtleback because of a long ago Amazon purchase of a book listed under the turtleback format.  The book I had received then was a paperback with a slightly different cover feel, but definitely still was a paperback.

The book I have isn't wish-listed, so I'll simply create a unique PBS listing and post it that way (and not by the actual ISBN).

-- Jill

Date Posted: 3/10/2016 12:35 AM ET
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I love Turtlebacks, small and durable!  When I volunteered at our school library, I used to wishlist Turtlebacks to replace missing books in our class sets for the English Dept.  Just disclose what the books are, somebody will want them.  If appropriate for school (most Turtlebacks are, that was the original point), you could try posting them in the Homeschool forum.



Last Edited on: 3/10/16 12:36 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/10/2016 4:57 AM ET
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Denise, I don't think this particular book was meant for regular school use.  It's a Spanish translation of a popular novel. Now that I know what turtlebacks are, I've seen books at a lot of libraries around that have other similar type (foreign language) books as turtleback (in addition to children's books).

-- Jill

Date Posted: 3/11/2016 8:26 PM ET
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I received a turtleback book that was published in 1960.  I didn't mind, as this was the only way I was going to find this book without it costing a chunk of change. I haven't relisted it, but now I think I'll create a PBS listing for it.