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Subject: Lisa Valdez
Date Posted: 6/11/2010 4:33 PM ET
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I  just finished Lisa Valdez's novels Passion and Patience.  While I knew from reading her website that she works a lot of religion into her work, I felt that it was overly used. Has anyone else read her? What are your thoughts? Any suggestions on what to read next?

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 4:52 PM ET
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I agree that she used too much religion citing in PATIENCE. I am not referring to quoting from the Song of Solomon which every HR author and their dog has done. I mean stuff like the consummation scene where St. Matthew has to philosophize about how long did it take Adam to get a stiffy and want to f*** Eve when he first awoke.  I dont remember reading that in the Bible but then again, I'm a Buddhist.

 

You might want to try Anna Campbell for a sexy HR writer. i know that she is a big fan of LV and even rereads PASSION to get inspiration when she is in a rut.

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 5:41 PM ET
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Yeah, that is how I felt. Valdez tells a great story (I loved her characters), but the religious reflection really happened at the most awkward (story-wise) moments, particularly the sex scenes. I like that she went out on a limb and wrote the submissive story line, because it's pretty ballsy for a run-of-the-mill paperback, but I had to pause for an eye roll each time she made a religious reference during intimate moments.. I don't feel it was that heavy-handed in Passion.  I'm curious what she'll write for the final novel.

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 7:59 PM ET
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I hardly remember any religion references in PASSION but then, my brain was kind of burned by references to the guy's 10.5 inches.

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 8:56 PM ET
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All I can remember is a lot of womb banging and manaconda type references.  Seems rather at odds with a religious theme:P

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 11:23 PM ET
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Passion was one of my favorite books but I have to agree that I was really tired of the 10.5 inch references and something about a pop as her body made space for his whopper.

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 12:36 AM ET
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I didn't care for the religious references or the bizarre anatomy those people seemed to have.  I would be happily reading along and then ZAP some bizarre moment for religious reflection? Huh? Again happily reading along and then ZAP unbelievable body parts doing unbelievable things...

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 2:17 AM ET
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10 1/2 inches is just... ouch.  I mean really?  I think my "womb" is cringing right now.

Seems like I read a review that really touched on all the religious references.  If I have time, I'll try to find it and post it here.  Most of you have probably read it already anyway.

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 10:44 AM ET
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Haha, yeah. And everytime Matthew points out Patience's tears, and how he wants her to cry, I feel a "seriously?" moment coming on.

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 2:28 PM ET
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OK, while I agree that for me the religious references during sex were totally weird, I kept thinking that No One else in Romance is going to this place:   Religion and porn.  Because frankly, I think what is so hot about Passion is the totally good girl and the huge Mr. Happy confluence.  Who else is doing that?

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 6:00 PM ET
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Because frankly, I think what is so hot about Passion is the totally good girl and the huge Mr. Happy confluence.

Oh God.  Thanks for making me wet my pants:P  I'm actually trying to imagine when/where/how else I would have had occasion to squeeze a rousing sermon and a ten inch chubby into the same train of thought.  It figures it would be here:P

Date Posted: 6/13/2010 9:58 AM ET
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I liked Passion very much despite the admittedly overdone religious references, and some of the other problems. It had a good story.   Patience, however, was not my favorite.  In Patience, she seems to depart from the romance genre and venture too much into erotica and mild BD/SM.  As a result of too many sex scenes (they actually became repetitive), the overall story suffered, I think. 

Date Posted: 6/14/2010 12:25 PM ET
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I actually felt that Passion didn't have as many religious references as Patience, but perhaps that is because I read Patience first and went back to Passion. I didn't mind her departure from the more traditional romance, but I just felt that their religious beliefs (very plausible considering they're vicar's daughters) could have been reflected in a much more believable way. And even the men I have a love/hate relationship with; they're strong dominant men and then Mark starts crying. I never thought I'd find that a turn-off, but I did.

Date Posted: 6/14/2010 3:51 PM ET
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OK, while I agree that for me the religious references during sex were totally weird, I kept thinking that No One else in Romance is going to this place:   Religion and porn.  Because frankly, I think what is so hot about Passion is the totally good girl and the huge Mr. Happy confluence.  Who else is doing that?

I think you may have something there, Pamela.  I'm always a little struck by how many PBS bookshelves feature religious books nestling cozily with erotica. ;-)