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Subject: A little discouraged & Paper back bindings
Date Posted: 6/25/2008 6:26 PM ET
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What is the average number of books that you mailed, but don't receive credit for? It seems I'm on a bad luck streak, I had one book evidently go missing and other that the requestor said did not meet the requirements so I refunded her the credit. The book spine split (on the inside) and I know it was not that way before I mailed it so it must have happened during shipping. (To be fair, the book had some other problems which I did not notice.) Is this about the normal rate? 

Most of the books I have received have been pretty good, not perfect, but good. I've had a few tho that had problems and frankly I'm just going to have to be start reporting them. If you can't notice a huge water stain on the second page of a board book . . .

And bindings, paperback binding suck so much that I think I'm going to have to go through the books I have posted and make sure the bindings aren't cleaved on the inside. I would never send a book where the binding was split on the outside, but if I've read a paperback, chances are the binding is weak on the inside. I have a book sitting here that I bought new, was going to post, but the binding is starting to cleave on the inside, so there is a book that will probably just end up in the garbage.

 

 

 

Date Posted: 6/25/2008 6:38 PM ET
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Hi Amber,

I have sent and received just over 400 books since being a member here, and have had only about 2 or 3 problem transactions, total, books sent and received. And since I am not real fussy about conditions, there may have been a few that were borderline and I knew that after I read it, it should not be posted back into the system. But what I do with books that are now longer postable is put them in the Book Bazaar Discussion Forum. I post them in the Damaged Book Thread. Members send books posted there for no strings attached. Or you can offer it free with an order from your shelf by starting a thread in the Book Bazaar Forum.

As for the quality of paperbacks today, yes the paper is very cheap and the glue isnt very strong. I once had a book that I really wanted to finish, and all the pages were just coming apart from the binding, some one posted a suggestion here and I tried it. With a clothes iron, set to medium, put an old towel or some other thick cloth and iron over the binding with the book closed. Let it sit overnight and it reactivates the glue. It worked for that book.  Make sure to use a thick peice of cloth so the book cover doesnt burn and use a cloth you dont care about, since some of the glue did drip out of the end of the book. It wasnt repaired to the point where I could repost it, but it  did the trick to allow me to finish reading it.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 6/25/2008 8:07 PM ET
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I've sent out 162 books and only had one complaint it was damaged by the post office.  It was an audio book that I put in a bubble mailer and was well cushioned.  But it got damaged the CD cracked-we think someone probably stepped on it at some point.  We split the difference. She wanted no credits back and we went back and forth and I ended up giving her 1 credit back. So we were both out a credit. 

I can really sympathize with the cracking spines.  It's the cheap quality of books. I've had more and more that I've taken good care of but they snap so easily. I joined another book site that allows you to post a book's condition to get rid of those.  (PBS is the best site though).

Definately report bad books.  If it's someone who normally sends out good books than that one red mark won't hurt their account. But it will alert them to pay more attention to the books they send out.  If it's someone who habitually sends out bad books then those red marks will help get rid of them. Don't be afraid to ask for you credit back if you get an unpostable book.  You might not get it but at least ask.

Also keep in mind that some books are borderline and eventually get to their last person as a postable book and sometimes that might be you.  But if it's an obviously unpostable book then mark it RWP.

Date Posted: 6/26/2008 10:37 AM ET
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Date Posted: 6/26/2008 1:26 PM ET
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Thanks everyone :)

Date Posted: 6/26/2008 10:01 PM ET
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I guess I feel like some people can't be pleased.  Even tho I think most people think of this as a used paperback swap, it seems lately alot of people want books that look absolutely new.  I just got done refunding a credit to someone for something I still shake my head over.  The person had the usual requirements, no smoke smell, etc., which wasn't a problem, and I felt the book was in really good shape.  The pages were a little darker on the edges from time, but otherwise I felt it was fine.  Well, you know how some books have that thin coating of a plastic on the covers to protect the paper?  Well I guess that was curling up a bit on the edge, so now i had to give the credit back.  The requestor said that everytime he/she took the book on/off the shelf that that coating came off a little more.  Huh?  I guess maybe I need to be more picky about what I take, since my standards aren't as high as others.  I think that if people want the books they receive to be 'display' books, they should make that clear.  I read books and pass them on, I don't worry about tiny cosmetic things like this!

Sorry, just ranting a bit...

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 12:07 AM ET
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That stinks Lynette. I haven't had any problems so far, however, when I read the rules it said the book could have some wear and tear (only one inch long, lol). It is so true that paperbacks are very cheaply made and it is hard to keep them brand new looking.

 

I must confess, I am scared that one of my packages that I am sending to another person is "lost" in the mail. I mailed out 11 books at a time and they all recieved the books in less than a week. However, one is still making the journey--and it only has a few days till they get their point back (I do know that if they get it, I can still get a point if they go to their transactions).Another reason that I am scared is because I tried pming the person to ask if they got the book yet, but they aren't responding. Do you ever have trouble trying to trust others? I know most people are good enough, but lets face it, we do have our share of shady people!

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 6:41 AM ET
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Date Posted: 6/27/2008 8:59 AM ET
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I agree most people on here are great and the bad ones will be weeded out. I have had a book reported lost in the mail but it went to an APO address and they take a lot longer, it eventually got there. Right now two that people sent to me are showing lost but the senders both contacted me, one to say it had been returned to them because it wasn't wrapped well enough and my address was torn off and the other had sent it with stamps only and it was over 13 oz so it was returned to them. They have both restent the books to me but I am worried about one because it was wish listed and I was returned to the wish list as #1. I haven't recieved the book so I hate to take myself of the list but don't want two coming either.

 

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 10:05 AM ET
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Could someone possible head me in the right direction??  

I received a book yesterday, it was an ex-library copy, which was ok,  trade size paperback so I expected some normal wear and tear.  However, when I opened the book about mid-way, there was a distinct separation of the front half of the book from the back half.  This condition I took to be a "cleaved spine" but I may be wrong.  I didn't mark the book RWP but I did send a note thanking him for the book but saying that I can't repost because of the condition.  He wrote back to me and said that there is nothing in the Book Conditons about this type of problem.  For some reason, I vaugely remember a previous discussion thread a while ago where this was talked about.  I looked but didn't see anything in the Help Section for  Book Condidtions that I could refer him to.

Is this an unpostable situation or isn't it?  I don't even care about the credit but I do like to have my facts straight.

Thanks!

 

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 11:12 AM ET
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Marilynn, yes that is a cleaved or cracked spine and it IS covered in the postable conditions guidlines.

Binding:

  • Must be intact, with no separation on the inside or outside of the book

I think that pretty much covers it since if there is a seperation of pages in that manner then the binding is split too.

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 11:16 AM ET
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Seems pretty clearly unpostable per PBS guidelines (emphasis added):

Binding:

  • Must be intact, with no separation on the inside or outside of the book

 

ETA: Pam was posting while I was cutting andpasting! LOL! :-)



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Date Posted: 6/27/2008 11:48 AM ET
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Thanks ladies - For a while I thought I was losing my mind - oh wait!  I did lose that years ago!!  :-)

I think that PBS must have changed their wording a bit and that is why I couldn't find it.

I love all you PBS elves - you always know what the right answers are!!!  TY again.

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 12:09 PM ET
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Date Posted: 6/27/2008 3:58 PM ET
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I need to start examining the books I get better before I say they have arrived in good condition. The last wish list book I got was Nineteen Minutes and when I started to read it I discovered one page had what looked like fingerprints on one page (maybe wet hand?) and the top binding was coming loose. Now I have an unpostable book when I should have marked it as having a problem.



Last Edited on: 6/27/08 3:58 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/27/2008 9:16 PM ET
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Elaine - I did the same with a WL book - the new Patricia Cornwell.   When I opened it to start reading I noticed that there were about 15 pages in the beginning of the book that were loose down in the bottom corner.  Needless to say this is another unpostable that I didn't check good enough when it came in.  It's too bad that people just can't follow the rules.

Date Posted: 6/27/2008 10:48 PM ET
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Marilynn, I agree that people should follow the rules and it makes me afraid I could have sent a book out at some time without checking it out good enough. If I picked it up somewhere and didn't read it I didn't look at each page of course. No one has told me about sending out a book that wasn't okay but they could just be like me and be so excited to get the book that they don't think to look until later when they pick it up to read it. I am going to start checking the books I send out and receive a lot better than I used to.