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Subject: Looking for books on the Jacobite Rebellion
Date Posted: 10/20/2009 6:39 PM ET
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I am looking for books that surround the Jacobite Rebellion.  Ex. Diana Gabaldon and Kathleen Givens.  Thanks

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 6:45 PM ET
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Summer's End: The Clan Maclean (Ballad Romances): Lynne Hayworth First of a trilogy about 3 brothers.
 
Date Posted: 10/20/2009 7:21 PM ET
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wow I've never even heard of it!

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 7:25 PM ET
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I just read a book called Highland Rebel: A Tale of a Rebellious Lady and a Traitorous Lord :: Judith James and it

deals with and around the time of Jacobites rebellion. I have to say, the ending of the book wasn't satisfying and the hero is VERY promiscuous and it definitely was a turn off for me but I don't know..maybe you might enjoy it...to bad I just gave away my copy of the book afew days ago.



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Subject: Patricia Veryan
Date Posted: 10/20/2009 7:55 PM ET
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Well under the heading-HTF-Patricia Veryan had a series called "The Golden Cronicles" that I love.  There is also a later series that deals with some of the aftermath of the Rebellion-"The League of the Jeweled Men".  The League of the Jeweled Men books are a bit easier to find.  These are all "traditional Regency(or rather Georgian) in that the sex takes place off stage-and the violence (except for a few memorable sword fights), takes place off stage as well. 

 

I'll have to put on my thinking cap for other authors-it was a period that I really enjoyed reading about years ago, but remembering what I've read and who the authors were-at this date is impossible!  Think Kimberley Cates did several-as well as Edith Layton. 

 

Jan

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 9:35 PM ET
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Stealing Sophie-can't remember author. But if I remember right there's a subplot about the Jacobean Rebellion.  (I think the hero is a Scotman whose lands/title were taken away). 

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 9:38 PM ET
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You did read the Marsha Canham books, didn't you, Sherron?  I can't remember if you'd said one way or the other, but I figure you know about them.

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 9:58 PM ET
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Not as spicy as our genre, but related.... Have your kids read the Crown & Covenant trilogy by Douglas Bond? About the Jacobite history for tweenagers... More info at Bond's website. My DD got the first one and now the remaining 2 are on my WL. Must be a "mom" thing. '-D

Colleen

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 10:38 PM ET
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ok how do all of ya'll know what this is?? did I sleep through world history..well ok never mind I don't remember a lot but I've never even friggin' heard of this!

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 10:48 PM ET
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Susanna, check this out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite_rising

Kim, I have read those by Marsha Canham and they are keepers for me.

Jan, I actually have the first three in the Patricia Veryan's series.  I just forgot about them.

Marjana, I also have Highland Rebel but, haven't started it because of bad reviews.

I will check out the others listed.  Thanks everyone.  Anymore??



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Date Posted: 10/20/2009 10:57 PM ET
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It's okay, Susanna. I know I never learned it in school (grade school, high school, or college). I learned about it in church. You're not alone if you're not familiar with Christian history.

When Libby started reading the books by Douglas Bond earlier this year, I made that whole period in history a research project for her. Of course, history is a continuum, so know she's all hyped on learning about the Tudor dynasty in England, the Protestant Reformation in Europe, and the persecution of the Catholics and Puritans that became part of the colonization of America. Not a bad way for a 12-yr-old to spend her summer! She's teaching me new stuff every day! LOL

Colleen

Subject: Stealing Sophie-
Date Posted: 10/21/2009 8:37 AM ET
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Yep-read that one too(and it's companion-Keeping Kate).  The author is Sarah Gabriel aka Susan King.  Both are good.  Shouldn't be htf either. 

"Crown of Dreams" and "Crown of Mists" by Kimberly Cates are outstanding.  Both on my keeper shelf. 

 

Jan



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Date Posted: 10/21/2009 8:38 AM ET
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Lol.  They didn't teach it in any of my schools either, Susanna.  I found out about the "Glorious Revolution" from Captain Blood by Rafael Sabatini, of all things.  Yes, that's the one they made into the Errol Flynn movie.  There's a much more detailed description of that period in history in the book - which I read when I was about 15.  I had an interest in it after that, so I looked up the Jacobite Risings in the encyclopedia - those old, antiquated things nobody uses anymore, thanks to the internet:P

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 8:46 AM ET
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I didn't learn about it in school either.  I first heard about it in romance books. 

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 9:25 AM ET
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Forgot to say, Sherron, I kinda think you'd like Highland Rebel.  I did enjoy it, it's just too wordy - which is an issue I have with Judith James in general.  She's a great writer, something along the lines of Penelope Williamson for big, epic stories; she's just a shade too epic for me and my tastes these days.  Her books are memorable though.  Broken Wing was amazing, IMO, but just about a thousand or so words too long:P  I think you're generally okay with epic stories though - more okay than me anyway, lol.  The hero's promiscuity didn't bother me all that much.  He wants to stay with the heroine when he first meets her, but she bashes him over the head & tosses him on a ship back to England & he thinks he's never going to see her again, and never really stops stewing over it.  I think he's in love with her at that point, but figures she's given him the brush off in a major way, which is when he starts sleeping around (he's bitter over it).  When she comes to England to find him though, he's faithful from that point onward, and I think he has a lot of good qualities as a hero.  She's really more of a pill than he is, and responsible for most of the push/pulling.

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Thanks so much Kim, you have made me want to read it now.  I actually like epic stories so maybe it will be my cuppa.  Going to give it a try this week. 

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  You enjoyed The Windflower and Heart of the West more than I did, although I could see they were both great books.  I've just moved on from being willing to sit & read every word of a book that long & detailed.  It's not that I can't do it, because I do on occasion, and if they're good enough, I'll stick with them to the end, no matter how long it takes.  They just aren't likely to be something I'll go back & read again.  Remember, I was the same way about Outlander too, so temper my reviews & opinions of epic stories with that in mind,  Had they not been good, I wouldn't have finished any of them, and both of JJ's books were actually slightly easier to read than any of the others I named here.

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Broken Wing was amazing, IMO   
I totally agree, Kim.  I thought that the book could have been slightly trimmed of excess verbage, but overall, I thought it was a terrific story.  I was really disappointed to find that like another good author, Fiona Carr, Judith James only wrote two books.  I am about 51 on the wish list for the one memtioned here.  I haven't been able to find another pen name for either author. 

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 2:15 PM ET
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I had one & passed it along to someone else.  I think I got it from The Book Depository.  It took 21 days to get that order, but it was cheap:P

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 4:21 PM ET
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*might contain spoiler**

Kim, I will give you that on the hero being faithful after they reunite again but what about the ending? I hated it because the H/H's future/life was so uncertain. I also felt really bad for them because they had no money, no property, no NOTHING!..like did the author really expected for me to believe that they will forever be traveling and disgusting themselves and be happy?..what happens when they have kids? Or what happens when they become old and can’t do it anymore? To me the ending really wasn't HEA

I think this book should be classified as Historical Fiction and not the historical romance. I would have enjoyed the book more if I wasn’t expecting any romance.

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 5:56 PM ET
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Yeah, I dunno, that didn't bother me.  They seemed happy, so I can give them the benefit of the doubt.  She put a lot of obstacles in their way, and I would have hated it if she'd neatly & conveniently resolved everything, like waving a magic wand.  Real life is a lot more uncertain & I think it's okay to have the H&H ride off into the sunset with not much aside from each other.  I could live with seeing it more often in romance, really.  I get tired of heroines marrying dukes & living in the lap of luxury being somehow an integral part of the HEA, y'know?  This was just a change of pace from all that.  Maybe not better, but acceptable & believable.  Besides which, Jaime & Catherine were separately very intelligent, resourceful people.  I think they would do just fine at making a life for themselves without all the trappings of their former lives.  That was sort of the point anyway.  They couldn't remain where they were, being who they were, nor could they go back to Catherine's clan.  The only thing for them to do if they wanted to be together was start over.  Just MHO - Anything else would have felt contrived.



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Date Posted: 10/21/2009 6:46 PM ET
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Gabaldon is THE BEST of course, but Marsha Canham is also very good.  I recomment Pride of Lions & Blood of Roses--moreso the first than the second, which is the sequel.  In BOR too much Blood IMO & not enough Roses.  Both were very good, however & she's a great writer!