I didn't like Dangerous Games at all. Too much bondage going on for me  the heroine got on my nerves.  I loved Hidden Agendas though. That one does not have any bondage in it at all, actually the heroine is a virgin. The next book is Killer secrets and I didn't care for that one either. I would give Hidden agendas a try though, the worst case is you don't finish it either. Good Luck!

I don't recall bondage in Dangerous Games..I remember a vibrating butt plug though..can't forget that scene. what helped me with that book was actually reading it hee hee and realizing the woman was wanting it as well and she pretty well holds her on. I don't remember a ball gag ever being used or any bondage.  Nauti Boy bothered me more with the 3 guys but of course I was just skimming so I'm hoping when I actually read cover to cover it'll be better.

ok thoughta bout it - whew got warm in here!- and ok I remember the bondage being in the book because of the club but I dont' really recall him tying her up or leading her around by a leash or anything..other than once scene in the club where she's undercover and in the 'dungeon' area with the group.

come to think of it, all of her stuff I've read the men are a bit manipulative. I can't read her stuff back to back like I can some of the others.

I too didn't care for Dangerous Games but I did like Hidden Agenda

I guess your right about not really bondage but more hardcore aggressive talking? it's hard to explain I guess. I got turned off by the butt plug and anal stuff.. Not really my fantasy but to each it's own.

yeh I think all her guys are that way Jessie..and I did like it better when I read it from the start though I don't like how they sorta force the woman to go along with the aggressive stuff..Iliked her book Forbidden Pleasures where the woman has 2 guys but the hubby didn't give her time to consent or anything..just had his friend come down when s he was still questioning that lifestyle and they seduced her.

I mostly read historicals. I am trying to branch out of  my safety zone a little and I think should have started on something a little more tame lol.  I don't know I guess Lora Leigh 's Alpha male attitude translates into arrogant a-hole to me, when Alpha male "Your MIne"attitude  from a highlander Laird  is okay... double standards double standards....

I'm reading an erotic historical that i'm liking so far(I usually read contemporary) by Sarah McCarty - Promises Linger. It's a pretty thick book and has 2 seqels and I think a 4th is due out from another publisher that's mass market size instead of trade size. It's kinda pricey but a lot of book for hte money..I'm slow in reading because there's a lot of story and the erotic part is too much to be reading at work which is where I do a lot of reading!

there's also a thread on here here somewhere where someone was asking about historical erotica..probably sevral pages down by now..I'll see if I can find it and b ump it up.

Lora Leigh can get pretty hard core. Many of her heroes are into BDSM, M/F/M threesomes, spanking and such. 

Diane Whiteside's Devil series is historical erotica.  I haven't read them all. There's some bondage and spaking in Irish Devil but nothing really extreme. 

Charlene Teglie has some bondage but not hard-core..the ones I've read of hers are contemporary though.

I can't remember the titles but I've gotten hold of a couple that made Leigh look pretty darned tame in comparison..still can't get that out of my head. oh, anne rice's 'beauty' trilogy is one..she wrote under a different  name but hoo boy.

I read the sleeping beauty Trilogy By Anne Rice..well I skimmed it It was waaay too much for me. Yea some of the things in those books were so far out of my comfort zone.... and a lot a lot of spanking..

I just read Lesson to Love by Erin Gordon.  Hero is a Dom who's really into spanking.  I mean that's practically all they do.  It was pretty good though.  I think the 2nd book gets more into the BDSM scene.  It's a 3 parter about the same cop couple tracking a serial killer.   So I would avoid that one if you don't like spanking.  Not just like spanking for fun. But he would make her stand in the corner and then he's spank her with his hand, a belt, a flogger, a paddle or a wooden hairbrush.   But the heroine loved it so it wasn't like he was abusing her.  She would always ask for him to spank harder and he would be like "I don't leave marks, I"m not an abuser" 

gosh..maybe I'd be careful if I start dating LOL..is that um the norm now?? I know my friend's into the spanking, blindfolding, etc etc..that's where I usually pass on the stuff that's too much for me..but don't know how far they go with it...gues that's a good conversation to have over olive garden 'sketti huh?! :-)

Yes, Lora Leigh's books are all pretty much like that.  Some of her books have a huge ICK factor for me.  In Marly's Choice, at the start of the book the three brothers all call the main character "little sis", by the end of the book they are all having sex with her at the same time.  ICK!!

She doesn't seem to show a whole lot of respect for her female characters.  And the males, I sure wouldn't want them.

the Nauti series books are not bondage or menage...  it started out with the heroes lean toward that direction but the heroines do not so.  Just a lot of alpha males going around.  The plots are ok, nothing to win prizes about, just the regular bad guy/ save the girl kinda thing like in her other books.  (sure hope I didn't post anything that's consider spoilers here)

Damn, the only Leigh book I've read was Dawn's Awakening and that one seemed relatively tame! Figures! ;-)

Someone just posted that Wild Card is at Walmart and was a very good read.  I looked for it a week or 2 ago, I have got to go back and find it! I really like her breeds stories, not that I have read many of them yet.

Anne

I remember in Nauti Boy from by skim through stopping only for the hottest stuff..the girl was with all the cousins(3 total) and messing around but only one actually had sex with her..I think one kissed her a$$ or something(literally) but they were kinda angry that he wasn't sharing her iwth them like they'd done their other willing...his father even gives him a 'speech'..I haven't read it cover to cover and it and the other 2 are in MT TBR somewhere or other...I read her books and they're hot but predictable in some of the scenes and I have to be in the mood for them because the men are very alpha and talk a bit rough to put it nicely though the women do seem to enjoy it. i like a bit more playfulness/gentleness/love and trust usally thrown in the mix...but at least when I buy hers I know I'll get some sex in the story unlike some other authors I've bought that had no storyline whatsoever and ick for the sex...

ETA:  Forbidden Pleasure I think is my favorite of hers and the first menage I read...there were things I'd like to have seen done differntly like when the woman questioned his menage with his male friend to have talked to her about it instead of having the friend join them unannounced to her and seducing her. granted she enjoyed it but didn't understand the feelings,protocol, etc and was lost. I liked jory strong's 'calista's men' much better in the development of the menage and the permanentness of it. leigh's was also permanent and a good story IMO but like I said being seduced into a menage without prior knowledge of what to expect would rreally tick me off!

Yeah the Nauti ones aren't as bad as some. The sex is still graphic but it's all about the cousin's finally meeting or getting with the one woman they aren't willing to share. Neither are the Seal books although in one of the them the hero is into domination. Her Bound series is really into the bondage, spanking, sharing etc...,  I haven't read any of the breed books.  I read an occassional paranormal but I'm not really into the shapeshifter thing.   

Susanna, you might like Brazen too.  I just finished it and though it was good.  They had to really work their way into the menage.  Maya Banks ususally does have decent story to go along with her "lovins".

I wonder if Brazen is available as an ebook..I'm crazily buying ebooks (or at least shopping) fo rmy new toy t hat's due here by Thursday(sony ereader not a vibrator toy LOL!) I got bogged down on samhain reading the 'warnings'.they're hilarious and just the kind of info I want w hen I'm buying erotic romance! one said' vehicular sex, doing it on whatever surface is handy, nekkid loving'..really cute stuff!

ok back to reading the forums and browsing the net..

I haven't read any of the breed books.  I read an occassional paranormal but I'm not really into the shapeshifter thing.

just fyi, the Lora Leigh Breed books don't have shapeshifters.  the Breeds are humans with some animal DNA mixed in, but they don't shift.  also those are all about finding your Mate, so there's no sharing going on.

ETA: it occurs to me that i haven't read them all, so i probably shouldn't make a blanket statement like 'no sharing', but really given the way they describe the 'mating heat' i don't see how that'd happen.

Breed Books. i've  heard you guys mention them.So what is it really  They are just regular humans with animal dna  like you said . They don't  have any body parts that are animals, no furr right  or hind quarters like a cat? I don't know  lol. I am intrigued .

I have another Lora Leigh question. Is there anyway to know if a book such as Tempting the Beast is ever traded through the system? Just wondering as I don't think I've seen it offered in the WL thread and I don't move up the WL line very fast on that one. I am #194 right now! Looks like I will end up buying it, as I did #2 in the series.

So is there any way to tell if these high number but not new WL books actually do get put into the system once in a while?

Thanks,

Anne