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Subject: Lost book (from the Virgin Islands)
Date Posted: 6/22/2016 7:54 AM ET
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So the books went lost, tracking only shows a lot of activity on one day (5/19). I've read the rules where it says wait a couple of weeks before requesting the same books but what if I find these books in a few weeks and then the 3 books from VI show up? These are WLed books so I go back to my place online but if I buy them, can I just remove them from my WL an buy them, and d if these books do show up, how do I handle 2 sets of books? (I do see where the rules say if the book was sent very late but I can't find what happens if they truly went lost and show up 10, 11 etc weeks later and you already bought them elsewhere)

 



Last Edited on: 7/11/16 8:10 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/22/2016 8:04 AM ET
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If they do show eventually then you should mark them received, after all the sender did mail them and you did request them. Since the books are wishlisted you can repost them. Maybe you should hold off on buying the books? They really might yet show up.

Date Posted: 6/22/2016 9:27 AM ET
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Books coming from the Virgin Islands can travel slowly, just like coming from Hawaii and Alaska, so don't give up hope! I would not rush out and buy them, but if you do, you can relist the ones from V.I. and yes, you must mark them received when you get them...it is not the sender's fault that they are traveling slowly.

Date Posted: 6/22/2016 6:42 PM ET
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The PBS rule about very late arriving books, where they have gone lost in the mail and  you have already ordered a second copy, is this:

If the books were mailed on time, and the post office is what delayed them, then yes, you do need to mark them received. If the books were mailed late, and that's what caused you to order 2nd copies, then you do not have to mark the first ones received. 

Date Posted: 6/22/2016 6:49 PM ET
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I see..so basically there is no time frame where I can safely buy them or take them off hold. If they show up 6 months from now I would have to lose the 3 credits. (If I bought them) Seems like there should be a safe zone so someone can still get them without being penalized. Like 3 months after the lost date..

Date Posted: 6/23/2016 11:17 AM ET
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Just remember, the member who sent the book is also being "penalized" as it is not their fault that sometimes mail travels slowly and they don't get their credit, unless they bought PBS postage, until the book arrives and is marked received. Whenever a book is coming from outside the contiguous US, they usually arrive just after the lost date, IME about 7-10 days after going lost. But you always have to mark them received whenever they arrive unless they were truly mailed late. At least they are WL books, if you do buy them instead of waiting you can always post the extra copies and recoup your credits.

Date Posted: 6/23/2016 12:05 PM ET
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She did use PBS..I get it isn't fair to the sender but the receiver is also stuck. I  get to have these on hold indefinitely. It's not the senders fault but inthink in this case she has her credits because she used pbs and I can't do anything unless I want to have doubles which puts me out money/credits. So if I think that gee, it's August, these books aren't coming and buy them..only for these 3 books to show up later, I'm stuck. Really, if books can't get to someone after x amount of time, I think 3 months after lost date, then the recipient should be able to get the books with no repercussions. That's just my opinion from someone who feels stuck.

Date Posted: 6/26/2016 7:58 PM ET
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Usually books from the VI, PR, HI and AK  and APO/FPO, etc., take about 6 weeks to arrive. I've never had one not make it either to me or if I sent it to the person who requested it. From HI, VI and PR they usually come by boat. Patience is needed, unfortunately. Pat

Date Posted: 6/26/2016 9:26 PM ET
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PR doesn't take too long, I send there a lot and get stuff sent to me. At Christmas it can take a long time though..

 

I get patience..it's been over 5 weeks with no movement but my issue is that, unless I want 2 copies, I can't safely get them. So if in 2 months I buy them or accept a wl offer and they arrive, I have no option to mail them back. I have to mark them received. My thing is that there needs to be that option 3 months after the lost date.

 

In my case the sender does have her credit, she used pbs postage. I get all the empathy for the sender, but the receiver is sort of stuck too.

Date Posted: 7/11/2016 1:25 AM ET
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We're seeing fewer USPS scans.  Just because there are not additional scans yet does not mean the package isn't still moving in the system.

Date Posted: 7/11/2016 8:12 AM ET
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Apparently from the vrigin islands it's common to take 8-9 weeks to get here..myself and the sender have been in contact and she's a pretty cool person. 

 

While I don't see you fewer scans on too much (I order from Amazon and other places a lot) , I found out it's common for the books to be extra long in transit and not scan while it sits in a container for 8-9 weeks. I thought it would act more like PR and take a couple of weeks (I send lots of stuff to PR and I get tons of stuff from PR) ..apparently it doesn't

 

(Oh btw, when books have gone truly lost in my case, the scans just stop....I don't know maybe they're in transit and I could have a cool story to tell months or even years later!  I could use a cool story!)



Last Edited on: 7/11/16 8:14 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 7/11/2016 1:50 PM ET
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Michele - didn't see this above, so if it's there please excuse. If you really don't want to wait and are sure the books are coming, just go ahead and buy the books, then when they come, mark them as having been received and turn around and post them again. As WLed books, they should be snapped right up and you really haven't lost anything. Good luck. Pat

Date Posted: 7/11/2016 2:53 PM ET
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I waited..they came in at the 8 week mark which  is actually typical. I didn't know that, figured it ran the same as PR. Apparently,  it doesn't. .lol.

The sender explained typical mail times when going to or leaving the VI...so next time ahe posts to me I know tthat they won't show for a min. Of 8 weeks.

Date Posted: 7/11/2016 6:38 PM ET
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Well, when I went to England and Wales in April the postcards I mailed 'airmail' took 3 weeks to get to the US so it doesn't surprise me that your media mail took so long.