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Subject: Magic marker writing on front cover
Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:02 PM ET
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Is it acceptable for a paperback to be received with magic marker writing on the front cover?  I know we can't post for writing on the text, but what about the cover?  It has a yard sale price written on it in black magic marker.  Please let me know.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:31 PM ET
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Yes, that is postable. As you mention, the rules only state no writing on text pages there is nothing that says there cannot be writing on the cover.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:39 PM ET
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Can you tell me why it is acceptable for someone to handwrite on the cover?  If I had known that, I could post a lot more of my kids books.  I think that is a shame for a sender to mark it like that.  I would never send one with any kind of writing on it. 

 

Thank you.

Subject: A Trick for removing marker.
Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:46 PM ET
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Color over the marker with marker  then immediately wipe it off with tissue or paper towel.  This will often remove the old marker.  Not 100% of the time.  But I find it works most of the time.  Especially on shinny covers.  Not as well on dull covers.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:52 PM ET
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Awesome Janice.  Your trick worked.  Now I have 2 perfect books.

 

Kellie

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 2:52 PM ET
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I've received at least two books with a drawing on the cover. Once it was a heart in permanent marker, another time a star in pen. I don't think it's necessarily always the sender doing it though. I would never think to mark the covers of my books, but I wouldn't hesitate to send those two back out even though someone else did. It doesn't effect reading or reposting the book, so it is not RWAP. If it is something you do not want, it might be beneficial to have an RC for it.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 3:20 PM ET
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Can you tell me why it is acceptable for someone to handwrite on the cover?

I don't know the exact reason the Team chose to allow it, but IMO its probably one of two reasons 1) the reading of the book is in no way affected by the writing and its not gross damage like water or stains that can cause other issues and (2) a lot of used books would get excluded from the site if a price couldn't be written on the cover because used bookstores frequently put their price right on the book.

Its just a cosmetic flaw that in no way hinders the use of the book, same as a note or signature on the inside of the cover or someone writing their name on the edge of the book in marker. Very few of the postability rules care about the mere look of the book.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 3:34 PM ET
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One of the thrift stores near me writes the prices in marker on the covers. I find that Goo-Gone will often remove it.

Anyway, I have always posted them unless there is so many marks on the cover that it falls under the "not in overall good condition" rule.

But, in general, writing is allowed anywhere on a book except text pages.

I think a kid's book with a few writing marks on the cover is probably still in "good condition", but if a kid really did a number on it, I would refrain from posting.



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Date Posted: 10/21/2010 3:41 PM ET
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I've updated by RC to include no handwriting on the cover.  I'm glad it came off, but I would not post a book with any type of handwriting on it (regardless of what the rules are, I don't find it acceptable).  I've been here almost a year and have never received a book with writing on it...so I really don't think it's all that common.

Also, highlighting doesn't affect the readability of a book (since it's made with the intention of reading "through" it) but it's still not acceptable to post a book with highlighting in it.  Just my opinion.

Thanks for everyones help.  The issue has been resolved and now I know what to expect.

Kellie

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 3:50 PM ET
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Also, highlighting doesn't affect the readability of a book (since it's made with the intention of reading "through" it) but it's still not acceptable to post a book with highlighting in it.

I find it really difficult to read highlighted books, and from reading the comments here, I know I'm not alone in this.  Yes, one can "see" the text, but it does effect readability.  Again, IMO.

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 5:26 PM ET
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I find it really difficult to read highlighted books, and from reading the comments here, I know I'm not alone in this.  Yes, one can "see" the text, but it does effect readability.  Again, IMO.

I agree. Highlighting can be difficult to read through, and falsely draws attention to passages or sentences that the author didn't intent. It breaks up the reading flow.

I think it's great in textbook to help cut to the chase, but I won't read a fiction book with them. It's like trying to swim upstream.

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Date Posted: 10/21/2010 5:30 PM ET
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I also find highlighting in a book to be annoying and distracting.  I will put my own emphasis on the author's words; I don't like someone else doing it for me!

Date Posted: 10/21/2010 5:55 PM ET
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I don't mind highlighting at all but would fume if I got a book with writing on the cover!  I didn't realize the rules allowed that til this discussion, but it makes sense since stickers are allowed.

Date Posted: 10/22/2010 3:53 PM ET
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I would love to have known about the writings on the cover if I was the receiver of that book. Good thing I have some awesome towelettes that can wipe off anything and hasn't failed me yet.

Date Posted: 10/22/2010 7:26 PM ET
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I never considered marks or writing on cover any different than names, notes etc on inside covers & end pages.