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Topic: Mailman wouldn't give me my BOB - Now What ??

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Lisa W. (WAL) -
Subject: Mailman wouldn't give me my BOB - Now What ??
Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:38 AM ET
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My Mail Carrier pulled into our driveway & honked the horn today as he does whenever I get a package. However, he was holding it & told me he couldn't let ma have this one. It had Postage Due - I said no I need that because it has a school book my girl needs how much is it & I will pay it. He told me it was $3.52 but, he still couldn't give it to me even if I paid because the package had been mailed with stamps that had already been use which was fraudulent. HE said it had tobe shipped back to the senders Post Office to deal with.

My problem is it was a BOB of 9 books for which I had already sent 10 books for being my requested ones were a tad bigger.

I have Messaged the sender but while I wait to hear from him I thought I would find out.... what's next

I assume if he doesn't respond I am out my 10 books but didn't know if PBS does anything in these cases??

Thanks,

Lisa

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:40 AM ET
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Why would he even bother bringing it to your house if it had to be sent back? Shouldn't that have been done at the post office before it even was put into his truck?

Lisa W. (WAL) -
Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:47 AM ET
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I am guessing it was noticed here in my small town??

I saw it in his hands and he showed me the stamps and how the ridge was around them from having been cut out. It was marked Postage Due but he said he had to return it.

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:53 AM ET
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I would send the person you got it from a tersly worded PM.......

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 1:23 AM ET
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That's weird.  I look forward to hearing how this turns out.  Please let us know.

I wonder if you couldn't have volunteered to pay for the whole thing.................



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Date Posted: 8/24/2007 2:08 AM ET
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I think I'd be down at my post office when they open in the PM and asking what the heck is going on!

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 8/24/2007 2:18 AM ET
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He shouldn't have even told you - they should have just returned the package.  I'd just let the sender get the package and let it go missing - deal with it when she gets it returned.  She should add appropriate postage to it and send it back to you.

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 4:30 AM ET
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Maybe you could go ask Steve in the postal forum.

Lisa W. (WAL) -
Date Posted: 8/24/2007 8:24 AM ET
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Yeah I just saw that forum now.... Thanks!

The Plot does get weirder too

- Lisa

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 11:30 AM ET
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I would have grabbed the box, paid him and let him have the outside of the box and cut out stamps for his evidence. Wonder if they will do anything to the sender since it is illegal to reuse stamps.

I have gotten a few books where it was VERY obvious the stamps were reused and I was amazed that I actually got them!

Diane

 



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L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:09 PM ET
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Lisa wrote:

The Plot does get weirder too

Oh, please, do tell!

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:49 PM ET
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ya, don't leave us hanging!!

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 12:50 PM ET
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Come on everyone....let's head to the postal forum to hear the rest of the story.

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 1:18 PM ET
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*picking up my popcorn and comfy chair and heading over to the postal forum*

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 5:46 PM ET
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Is that enough popcorn for two, Jane?  I'm heading over to the postal forum, too.  ;->

Date Posted: 8/24/2007 11:38 PM ET
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Me too!
Date Posted: 8/25/2007 12:07 AM ET
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I'll bring more popcorn.....scampering off!

Date Posted: 8/25/2007 8:59 AM ET
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I would call the postmaster at your local office, that day if possible (I know it may be too late). Sounds to me like the box went through all the usual channels without being "caught" yet he felt the need to stop it. It is ridiculous then, IMO for him to flash it to you and refuse to deliver it. He could have, if he felt like being the big rule-breaker-finder, to stop the package and never say a word to you. What is the point in letting you know that?

A friend of mine has a postal carrier who carries a Sharpie marker. If any stamps come through without being  cancelled he crosses it through them before delivering them. Contrast that to my postal carrier delivery guy who delivers packages here with uncancelled postage sometimes.

Some people really love to find people who break rules and to make sure they step in and take over and address it, to an extreme!

Date Posted: 8/25/2007 7:38 PM ET
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I would say depending on the sender's response to you, you should report this to R&R. Reusing stamps is illegal and they may decide to close his account for this.

Date Posted: 8/25/2007 7:50 PM ET
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I saw it in his hands and he showed me the stamps and how the ridge was around them from having been cut out. It was marked Postage Due but he said he had to return it

Well, how does that prove they were re-used.  I have in the past had stamps stuck to envelopes that never got mailed, once when I made out wedding thank yous (hubby took them to mail, I found a few that fell out of the stack under the seat in his truck about  a year later LOL) and then there was the time my granddaugher stuck an enitre brand new book of stamps to the cover of her coloring book, I have in those cases cut out the stamp off the envelope to use.  Nothing illegal about that, just because they were orginally stuck to something doesn't make them throw aways.  I have never had anything returned using stamps that were once stuck on something else, and if it were to happen I think I would be having words with my postmaster!

I would call the PO and complain, unless there were residual ink from cancelations I think they have to give the benefit of the doubt.

Date Posted: 8/25/2007 9:26 PM ET
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Gee, I agree with Tammy on this one.  I've stamped bill envelopes, then changed my mind and paid online, for example.  I sure wasn't going to let those stamps go to waste.  I cut them off and used them on something else I mailed.  There are many examples of stamps being cut out and having ridges around them that do not indicate thievery. 

 

Date Posted: 8/25/2007 10:54 PM ET
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This topic has continued over at the Postal Forum.   Someone posted  info there from the USPS website that says you can't cut even UNUSED stamps off of an envelope and use them.