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Subject: Would you mark this RWAP ?
Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:16 PM ET
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A book I received today came in with the top back corner missing about 1/2 inch chunk, front cover missing about 1/2 inch chunk, then about 1/8 inch tear on the cover. I would never ever repost it or post a book like this but is it considered RWAP ?

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:24 PM ET
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I would consider that RWAP. That is my personal opinion.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:30 PM ET
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Was it damaged by the PO?

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:31 PM ET
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No, it was wrapped really good and tight so I know they sent it this way, the wrapping was perfect, the book was damaged.

Amy
Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:32 PM ET
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Absolutely! Mark it RWAP.

I would possibly ask for my credit back, as well.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:35 PM ET
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Here is what the PBS help docs state about the condition of book covers

Cover:

  • Must both be present (front and back)
    • note that a paperback missing its front cover is  usually an illegal, unsold copy
    • "cover" does not = dust jacket.  Hardcovers do not need to include their dust jackets to be swapped here.
  • Cover not water damaged (there may be no water damage to any part of the book)
  • Cover not torn or chewed/gnawed
    • some used book stores cut out a small part of the cover; if the amount missing is less than 1 inch, this is OKAY
    • a small rip (less than 1 inch) in the cover is OKAY
    • yes, that does say "chewed/gnawed" above.  That means no pet-chewed (or human-chewed) books.
Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:36 PM ET
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Then I would mark it RWAP.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 3:38 PM ET
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I marked it RWAP and asked for my credit back. Now let's hope I don't get an ugly pm back.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 4:03 PM ET
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I'm not sure that it passes the not excessively worn, good condition test with that much going on, but unless it was the distance of the whole cover X1/2 inch none of the measurements you give are over the allowed 1 inch tear/cut out (and the rules do not say only one can be present). If the book is otherwise in great condition, it does meet posting conditions. I am guessing the poster looked at the rules and all of them were under 1" so they felt it met the condition.



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Date Posted: 8/28/2008 5:36 PM ET
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I was going to say what melanie said. The tears are under an inch. I probably wouldn't post it myself, or at least not without asking  the requestor first. I have been asked first, and on some I say it's okay, and on other's, not.

Also, I think it depends on how old the paperback is. I am much more lenient when I get a 40 year old paperback than I am with one that's a year or 2 old.

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 8:42 PM ET
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The book is under 10 years old, I got a message back saying that "SINCE THIS SITE HAS NO PLACE TO PUT BOOK CONDITIONS, IT IS NOT MY FAULT YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT AND THEREFORE YOU DON'T GET A CREDIT BACK"

I replied " iF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT THAT'S FINE .bUT i AM LEAVING IT RECEIVED WITH A PROBLEM SO PBS CAN KEEP TRACK OF BOOKS THAT ARE RWAP AND DEAL WITH IT IF AND WHEN THEY FEEL IT IS NECCESSARY."

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 10:29 PM ET
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That's a pretty rude response from the sender!

As with those above, I think it's within PBS guidelines (though whenever I have a book like that, I always PM the requestor to double-check with them that they don't mind); so I think the person had the right to refuse to refund the credit; however, they had no right to be so snippy about it!

Date Posted: 8/28/2008 10:56 PM ET
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Yipes..those "snippy" sort of replies just tire me.  I agree..the sender had every right to deny refunding a credit, (just as you had a right to "complain") but it sure could have been nicer.  I received a book today where the cover was pretty worn..not water damaged or torn..it was seriously thin feeling...lol.  The book is 25 years old and I know it was a pretty "popular" read in it's day.  I pm'ed the sender saying that I knew it probably wouldn't be in pristine condition, BUT it was actaully a bit better than I expected..lol.



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Date Posted: 8/28/2008 11:47 PM ET
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I don't know....

According to what Shelly posted up there, the book falls within the PBS guidelines.   I probably wouldn't have asked for my credit back.  I also would not have marked it RWAP.

But....the response you got back from the sender was a tad on the rude side.  I think if had been that sender, I would have just given you the credit back and be done with it, making a note that you were unhappy and probably not swap books with you again.

There's so many other GREAT swappers on this site to mess around with the ones that are too picky or too rude.

 

Date Posted: 8/29/2008 1:54 AM ET
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I would never post the book like this but I guess it will be posted as a freebie later on, i just feel like I lost a credit because if I reposted it now just like it is I feel like I'd be marked RWAP by whoever got the book. I don't think I am being picky but who knows , maybe I am. I am going to try to put a picture in my siggy line so you all can see.

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 8/29/2008 4:40 AM ET
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It's not fine and the poster needs to either follow the posting guidelines or swap elsewhere.

Man I hate people who don't follow the rules and then blame someone else!