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Subject: member asked for a deal on over 60 books from my shelf.. would u deal
Date Posted: 9/11/2013 1:15 AM ET
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hey everybody,

 

I just got a pm from a member who saw a book series on my shelf that has over 60 books in it. She wants a deal for  all of them. altogether the series has  68 books in it some are anthologies which are thicker books.  I have never had a member want a deal on this many books.  I'm afraid the postage will be super expense to mail out that many books. so I am asking for advice.

would you make a deal with a member who wanted that many books? and if so what kind of deal would you make? How many credits would you ask for? thanks for looking and  I appreciate any help with this.

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 1:27 AM ET
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it is totally up to you. You are under no obligation to accept this deal.  Maybe before accepting the deal figure how much it would cost to send that many books with media mail.  Then once you have that then you can decide how many credits you want if you were to accept. I would probably do a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deal.  For me I would most likely accept to do a deal like this because i would be happy to get rid of that many books, but it is totally up to you.  Below are media mail rates.

 

Current USPS Media Mail rates*:
  Effective Jan 27, 2013

Up to 1 pound.......................................$2.53
More than 1 pound, less than 2 pounds....... 2.98
More than 2 pounds, less than 3 pounds..... 3.43
More than 3 pounds, less than 4 pounds..... 3.88
More than 4 pounds, less than 5 pounds.....4.33
More than 5 pounds, less than 6 pounds.....4.78
More than 6 pounds, less than 7 pounds.....5.23
More than 7 pounds, less than 8 pounds.....5.66
More than 8 pounds, less than 9 pounds..... 6.09
More than 9 pounds, less than 10 pounds....6.52

 



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Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:10 AM ET
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I've sent as many as 40 books in a deal before. I think I took 10 credits for that one. It's up to you what the deal is worth, of course, but I would estimate 60 paperbacks would be around 25 to 30 pounds. My 40 book package was 17ish pounds, if I recall correctly. They were all regular adult size mass market paperbacks.
Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:16 AM ET
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I assume you're a PBS member to swap books, so feel free to accept any deal you are comfortable with...and rejoyce if it's 60+ books lol.  Depending on the size of the books, it's surprising how many you can pack in a box and mail at reasonable cost with Media Mail (maximum of 70 lbs).  Weigh 20 or 30 of them (a mid size MMPB wights about 6/7 oz), and estimate shipping....from USPS, here's a link to the full chart:

 

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 6:52 AM ET
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I would be thrilled to send out 60 books at once -- as other folks have pointed out, it will be cheaper to send them all via Media Mail than it would sending them out 1 at a time at $2.50 or so per book.  I would suggest using Printable Postage for this one, to protect your credits, if you decide to swap.

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 7:12 AM ET
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Date Posted: 9/11/2013 8:07 AM ET
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For paperbacks, yes, I'd probably do it.  Sending out 60 together would probably be under $15 (definitely under $20), and sending them out individually would be over $100.



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Date Posted: 9/11/2013 10:02 AM ET
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I just sent out a box of 21 books many of them hard cover. The box weighed about 20 lbs and was less than $12. I can only send 4 hard cover books one at a time for that. The person didn't ask me for a deal but I sent a PM telling her when she safely gets her books I will be sending back some of the credits because it was such a bargain to send.

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 12:21 PM ET
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well i just heard back from the member and they mentioned that they recently got a deal of 37 books for 6 credits from another member (not me). so they thought i should be willing to send all 68 books for 12 credits. they said that was the only deal they were willing to do for that many books so i'm thinking i might skip this deal. I'm still on the fence because it seems like i would be getting gipped in this kind of a deal. i don't know i'll have to think about it. I calculated the postage for the books and the postage is more then the amount of credits they are wiling to trade for this amount of books so i wouldn't even be breaking even there.



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Date Posted: 9/11/2013 1:37 PM ET
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That ratio sounds too steep for me.  Maybe if it was thin kid's books?

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 1:41 PM ET
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That is not nearly enough credits for 60 books.  I would think that 20-30 was more appropriate, provided that they were all paperbacks..

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:09 PM ET
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If you're at all uncomfortable with it, just say no and move on.

It's nice that you gave it some consideration, but if it's not worth your time and postage then there's no use messing with it. 

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:12 PM ET
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I agree - 12 is ridiculously low. I think 20-25 sounds fair.

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:22 PM ET
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I agree, I would want 20-30 credits to send out 60 books......it's not just the money spent on postage that you should consider, but your time and effort in wrapping that many at once.

Date Posted: 9/11/2013 2:33 PM ET
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For deals, I try to stay around $1 postage per credit.

So let's say 68 books weighs 30 pounds ... (I think it would probably actually weigh less, honestly).

30 pounds is $15.12 in postage.

So, for me, I would want NO LESS than 15 to 16 credits for that pacakge.



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Date Posted: 9/11/2013 3:17 PM ET
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Like someone said, you are saving a lot of shipping money by being able to ship this many at once. Since they are posted books (i.e. not Wishlisted), you don't have a guarantee that they will ever be requested. If it were me, I'd be happy to get rid of this many but probably not for that few credits, you could counteroffer 20 and see what they say.

Date Posted: 9/12/2013 6:17 AM ET
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12 credits for 68 books is a bit low, I think.  My offer would be 68 at 20 or 22.  You will need a big box and some packing material as well as the postage and the gas to get to the Post Office and your time.  I would use DC either preprinted postage for instant credit or DC by itself for quick credit.  I would need to be protected in case the parcel goes lost or something.  You are the one to make the decision and whether to accept or not.  I personally have sent over 40 books for around 15-20 credits, all MMPB.  I have some books that are new and have been read by me alone and I hate to give those up in deals like 3-1 or 4-1.

Date Posted: 9/13/2013 8:51 PM ET
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Early on, after I joined PBS, I had a member ask for a 1 credit for 3 books deal for 27 books on my list.  I thought it over and agreed. Then he tells me he doesn't have enough credits at that time and could he just send me 1 credit for 3 books now and he would get the rest later.  I said no and never heard from him again.  This is a great site, but you still have to keep your wits about you.

Date Posted: 9/13/2013 10:49 PM ET
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I recently sent 49 books to a relative (not through PBS) and it cost $8.44 media mail. So, not too expensive sending a big batch.  However, you also have to consider what it cost you to acquire those 68 books.  If you bought them new, then it's not reasonable to use that value, but if like me, you bought them at a ubs or FoL for $0.25-1.00 each plus packing and postage, then 3 or 4 per credit isn't a bad deal at all! 

eta:  so about 17 credits.  I'd counter-offer anything from 17-20 and see what happens...

eta-2:  DON'T regret not giving someone a better deal than they deserve!!



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Subject: I do LOTS of bulk mail
Date Posted: 9/14/2013 12:25 AM ET
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I do lots of bulk Medfia Mail orders, both incoming and outgoing. There are a few considerations.

1.  Do you need credits?
2.  Do you like to order several books at one time?
3.  Do you consider getting books outside your wish list?
4.  What do you pay for your books on your bookshelf?
5.  Of course, what do the books weigh?

Ssince I go through LOTS of books and can stock my bookshelf for about 5 cents a book at the library sales, I really take advantage of Media Mail. After the first book, each pound sends about 4 to 8 paperbacks. At only $.45 per each extra pound, that's about $.20 worth of books and $.45 in postage for each book credit at an ultimate cost of $.65 per credit.

I did a deal for 80 books for 10 credits to a lady who sends them overseas to soldiers. I was glad to help, cleared out my bookshelf, and got my credits for about $1.00 each. It was a great deal for both of us.

Being stingy at 2 or 3 for one ultimately costs you more for your book credits. Just make sure ou are covered for that 1st pound. Consider the first 2 books for 1 credit and 4 or 5 books for each credit thereafter.

Think about the above as you decide what to do.

Date Posted: 9/14/2013 9:31 PM ET
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When I first joined PBS, I did a large book deal.  I think it was around 50 books.  I had tons of books at that time and was planning to post them as they were requested.  I found a box and calculated the postage.  I think I only asked for like 12 credits since it more than covered the cost of the postage for me.  Plus, I had tons more books to post to get rid of so I was just happy to get rid of a bunch at once.

It's completely up to you what you feel is fair for that many books.  What sounds good to one member might not sound good to another.
 

Date Posted: 9/15/2013 11:16 AM ET
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If it was paperbacks, in a heartbeat. Hardbacks, probably not. I've sent out some large orders before but nothing like that amount. My DD once sent out something like 75 or 100 Harlequins to someone on a deal. That was easy enough - small PBs pretty much all the same size. I remember helping her pack them up but that was years ago.

Date Posted: 9/15/2013 5:23 PM ET
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I've done 60-100 harlequin romances for 12 credits a few times. It cost me $12-$15 to mail each time.

But you should only do deals that sit right with you. If you don't want to go that low, then tell the person you are not willing to go that low and what you are willing to do. The worst they can do is say they don't want them and go away. Put the books together and weigh them and figure out the postage cost to mail them together. Then figure that you'd spent about 2.50/ book to send them all on their own. Figure out how much of that savings you want to split with the requester. A deal should benefit both parties, but you in no way need to give all the benefit to the requester just because they are asking for the deal.

Date Posted: 9/16/2013 11:55 AM ET
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Molly -

Enquiring minds want to know - what was your final decision?  Personally, I'd have declined, but then that's just me.  Pat

Date Posted: 9/16/2013 1:56 PM ET
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That is not nearly enough credits for 60 books.  yes

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