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Subject: NC Judge Orders HS Kidlets Into Public School
Date Posted: 3/24/2009 12:47 PM ET
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Looks like part of an ugly divorce.

http://www.huliq.com/1/78339/nc-judge-orders-homeschool-mother-put-kids-public-school

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 10:45 PM ET
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Not a homeschool issue. The wife's parents even testified against her, the allegations are that she is in a cult, and that it is not a healthy enviroment for the kids. I hate that a judge is making that decision, but if it truely is in the best interest of the children (which is sounds like this is) then I guess it's all for the best....

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 1:59 AM ET
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Beckie can you provide links to that info? I haven't heard/seen any of that.  Thanks.

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 4:25 PM ET
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Yeah when I read it a few days ago it souded like she was in a cult to me too.

Here's more on it: www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 4:50 PM ET
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I have been to several web sites and read that the husband has verbalized that she is in a cult.  But, I have yet to see anything that substantiates that. 

The judge said the kids need to be in public school to "make sure they have a more well rounded education."  Boy that sounds like he thinks they aren't getting"socialized" to me!  

It sounds more like Germany than the USA. 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 7:30 PM ET
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I agree with Carrie, I'm not seeing anything to indicate cult activity. The church is called Sound Doctrine Church. Here's the site http://www.sdoctrine.org/ 

I think it boils down to a religious issue. The DH doesn't agree with the DW's religious views so he doesn't want them taught to his kidlets. But what I want to know is where was he the last 4 years when they were homeschooled and getting high marks? Seems like he didn't care until the divorce.

 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 7:59 PM ET
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Venessa Mills' mother, Dawn Lewis, told the judge she soon became "concerned" about her daughter's involvement with the church and its effect on her grandchildren.

The church was described by as a "cult" by former members, according to court documents.

"Sound Doctrine is not a healthy place for kids to grow up," former member Tina Wasik testified. "It is run by fear and manipulation."

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509687,00.html

 

During court proceedings, Tina Wasik, a former member of the church, characterized it as a cult and testified under oath that "Sound Doctrine is not a healthy place to grow up. It is run by fear and manipulation."

Other former members gave sworn court statements that church leader Tim Williams made inappropriate sexual comments about girls as young as 4.

Former member Jessica Gambill testified that "After I joined Sound Doctrine, Tim Williams told me that my oldest daughter (then age 12) was the kind of girl that men would take advantage of, that my middle daughter (then age 7) was the kind of girl that would sleep with any guy, and that my youngest daughter (age 4) was the kind of girl that would use her looks to seduce men."

All the accusations against the Sound Doctrine Church and its leaders made by former members were denied in affidavits filed by Venessa Mills' attorney.

In a temporary custody order issued Tuesday, Judge Ned Mangum found that Venessa Mills' own parents were concerned for the welfare of their grandchildren because of her relationship with the church and testified that she was "very domineering" with her kids.

Dawn Lewis, Venessa Mills' mother, testified how her grandchild looked fearful in Venessa's presence. The court records also say that the children were in daily contact with Sound Doctrine church member via webcam during time set aside for school instruction.

 

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6714504

 

 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 10:38 PM ET
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decided not to comment  afterall 



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Date Posted: 3/26/2009 10:51 PM ET
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Thanks for the links Beckie.

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 10:59 PM ET
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I only know what I have read, and the fact that the HSLDA doesn't get involved in child custody cases, so no information from them, it makes it hard to say one way or the other who is right. Sure the website for the Sound Doctrine Church looks good, but I don't think they would announce on the website they are a cult, it would cut down on new memberships. I just think it says a lot that the marital problems seem to have started when she joined the church, and that her own parents are concerned about it as well, enough to speak to the judge about it anyways.

Subject: NC Case
Date Posted: 3/27/2009 11:46 AM ET
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I don't see this case as a cause for homeschoolers in general to become alarmed.  This is a divorce case where the parents disagree so the judge has the authority to decide what is in the best interest of the children.

Date Posted: 3/28/2009 12:35 PM ET
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You think we've the last of cases like this? Even if this is a divorce and cult issue...we have an administration in power that wants to take away paternal rights and nationalize everything...including our children's education. Don’t think we’ve seen the last of home schooling parents being dragged into court because they’re pulling their children out of public schools to homeschool and instructed in the home. I don’t think it’s going to become easier for homeschoolers, not according to the HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association) e-newsletter I get every week anyway.

I hope I'm wrong.