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Subject: Nellie's PBS Tip/Trick of the Week
Date Posted: 7/1/2010 11:30 AM ET
Member Since: 4/23/2007
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OK so I was cleaning up my wish list. Such a hassle to click on all the red links to see how many other wishlisted copies there are. Well, all of the sudden I noticed this button on the right hand side called the ?Expand Wish Button?. Curious, I clicked on it. Poof! I had a display of a list of all the available variations of the book in the system, without having to click on each red author link to see how many people were wishing for it. I had the entire history of this right in front of me. I could see which copy I was wishing for, which copy was moving faster and change around my wishes to put me in a better position for the book.

This feature has been around for awhile, but I never checked it out. Try it and report back!

Date Posted: 7/1/2010 11:33 AM ET
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LOL, Nellie! I've been using it since the feature was added. If you click on the Options button up top, you can click on Show me alternate versions question.gif when I wish for a book  and it will show you all the ISBNs when you add a book. I usually check the estimates and add the one that seems to be moving faster. :)

Date Posted: 7/1/2010 11:42 AM ET
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Cool! The only "problem" I've ever seen with PBS is that it has so many great features that sometimes you can't keep up with all of them!!

Date Posted: 7/1/2010 12:47 PM ET
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I do the same thing D.G. does because I'm not particular about bindings.  That little feature has been awesome.

Date Posted: 7/1/2010 1:05 PM ET
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I love this feature as well!  But I've noticed that it's not foolproof.  Sometimes a version of the book won't be listed and once in a great while it's pulled up a completely unrelated book when I clicked it.  One time I was looking for versions of a new release mystery (can't remember which one) and on the list was an Ansel Adams photography book.

Date Posted: 7/1/2010 1:42 PM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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The only thing missing from that great feature is that they don't say when the last time the book was in the system.  It's important when the books granted are all 0's.  Since they put that on our WL, I wish they put it on the Wish Expander, too.

Ruth

Date Posted: 7/2/2010 1:34 AM ET
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Kathy, I've found that a couple great ways to keep track of the changes on PBS (or at least MOST of them, since they do NOT post all of them here) is to bookmark the What's New link at the top of the pages above the banner. And the main Help Center page so that I can click the What's New Arrow there as they don't always match. Sometimes they are a bit slower to update one page than the other.

And, Laura, that is an unfortunate fact with the database, that sometimes different editions of a book are not connected to others. We've discussed this with the database programmers and they haven't found a cure for this problem, so we just live over it and hope it doesn't happen too often. I do want to point out that sometimes it's not a glitch keeping two editions from connecting, it's a small tiny difference in  one or the other's title or author.

Example: two books by J. R. R. Tolkien one connects to a bunch of the other editions. One connects to few or maybe even none. Look very closely, especially with an author that has initials in their name. If there is a spacing difference, those books are NOT going to match. Yes, I KNOW it's the same name, and YOU know its the same name, but the computer is a stickler for precise exact rules. If there is any space or punctuation difference between two editions, they WILL NOT connect when using the "similar" features.

This unfortunate "feature" causes all kinds of problems with the database, such as when you pull up an author, if there's a difference in the punctuation of their name, you won't pull all their books. Only the ones with the puctuation that you clicked on. Same with titles, if you want to see all the various editions by clicking on it in the red/green listing of titles in the authors listing, they won't all come up, if there are punctuation or spelling or spacing differences in some of the listings.

We on the Data Correction Team encourage you to correct those problems when you see them. While it may seem like it's no biggie when you correct just one little thing like that. But say only 10 of you every day, checked and corrected just one title or author's listings and submit them to make them match as much as possible (maybe taking you 10-20 minutes a day?) Then figure how many that makes for the month (avg) of 300 instead of just looking at that little 10 per day, it really adds up to a lot towards helping the database. And remember, every change you make in the database will change not only the book on your shelf, but all the copies currently posted or those that will be in the future. The biggest joy in my life right now ( well, instead of all my health & financial issues of course, but I meant realistic wishes) would be to see even half the number of members that come online and browse the pages every day to have them each do 1 edit everyday. That would be awesome wouldn't it? Just think, that could be hundreds done everyday of every month, and wow, to the end of the whole year!!!

Ahhhh, we can all have dreams, can't we? hahahaha

Date Posted: 7/2/2010 7:48 AM ET
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OK, Sherry, thanks to your post above-and a long standing guilty feeling, I went and dug up your post asking for data edit helpers and read the edit instructions. Pulled up a book I knew needed a minor correction and ventured into the scary world of Member Tools. It was easy!

Date Posted: 7/3/2010 10:53 PM ET
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I'm so glad that you braved the world of data edtiing and found it to be easy. I'll expect all the books on your shelf to be completed with all their details by the end of next week! hahahaha Seriously, it's amazing how many people are actually afraid to take that first step into editing. Afraid that they will mess something up that cannot be corrected. What they don't realize is that an approver will look over their edits before they become public and will correct anything that they've messed up on.

Date Posted: 7/4/2010 12:21 AM ET
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The only reason I don't use this feature more is that it always pops up when I'm adding a 200th book and I can only add one version. Then I forget to go back and add the other versions when I have a space open up.  I need to let several spaces open up and then go through and get all those other versions on there. 

Date Posted: 7/5/2010 7:47 AM ET
Member Since: 12/11/2009
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Yep, I use it quite a bit. I don't like hardcover but a lot of the new releases I wish for are hardcovers, because that's all that's available. Periodically I go through my wishlist and see if there are now release dates for paperback versions of any of those and remove the hardcover wish and add the paperback one. Very cool!