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Subject: New - RWAP book colored ON and in
Date Posted: 9/29/2010 6:31 PM ET
Member Since: 11/28/2007
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Guidelines talk about writing - which I would've preferred.

The Cover, inside cover and several pages are scribbled on w/ green crayon.  Is this a legitimate concern?  It's tricky for me because even though I've been a member a while - I just started swapping.

Your honest insight is appreciated.

Date Posted: 9/29/2010 6:37 PM ET
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I'd say it's RWAP... the coloring is the same as writing or highlighting, if it is on the pages of the story text especially.

 

Guidelines:                                                                                                                                       

Overall Condition:

  • no highlighting, underlining or writing on text pages (exception for Textbooks/Workbooks and travel guidebooks --see below)

Pages:

  • No writing or highlighting or underlining on text pages
    • a signature or note on the flyleaf or inside front or back cover is OKAY
    • an author's signature on the title page is OKAY
    • writing or highlighting or underlining on the text pages is NOT OKAY
Subject: the reply
Date Posted: 9/29/2010 7:11 PM ET
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Thanks Mary - that made me feel better.

I understand that PBS doesn't get involved and it's a done deal- but it's only the 2nd book I've received and I'm sad/disappointed.

 

I received a quick reply from the sender who said this....

I am sorry you are disappointed. I consider this good condition. I had received this book from paperback swap in that condition with no warning as well therefore i did not think it was necessary to inform about. Again, i felt the book was in good condition meaning there is no highlighting/underlining, pages torn or missing, binding breaking, etc. 

I also did not remember pages which reading would be occurring on to be colored and if there were i did not find it distracting seeing as it would have been possible one page which would contain a few marks if that. 

I guess don't repost it and now I know for future reference if i receive a book from a member with markings on/in it, to inform other members of this.

Again I am sorry you are disappointed.

 

do I need to add "no crayon marks" to my guidelines?

Date Posted: 9/29/2010 7:18 PM ET
Member Since: 12/10/2009
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It would be too sad to have to add" no crayon marks" , to an RC. It would be like saying" no mushrooms", some things are just obvious. I have recieved some very nice books and some well loved ones, so keep the faith, good books are out there.

Date Posted: 9/29/2010 8:50 PM ET
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Uh, DK... I know you're new and all... but "I got it that way" is the biggest, fattest, full of manure lie EVER. Tell that heifer to give your credit back because the book is NOT re-postable. That's the issue. Not whether you can see through Crayola. *rolls eyes* I wonder if they had the wherewithal to mark it RWAP themselves and now trying to jip a credit from a new-er person. Ooo, that just curdles my milk!

But don't hold all of PBS to this standard. I've received nearly 200 books and only 2 or 3 have been RWAP for me. And yes, they also told me that they got it that way and I can still read it. So be firm, be polite and lets help those people adhere to guidelines. Yeah, that came across nice, right?

For the most part your Reader Conditions should outline factors outside basic PBS guidelines. Such as smoke smell or wrap it in plastic etc. When you start getting long winded and reiterating PBS rules people quit reading your RC and start declining it once their eyes glaze over, even if their book meets your criteria.

Date Posted: 9/29/2010 9:44 PM ET
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The rate of RWAP transactions is very low compared to bad swaps. The likelihood of getting another crayola'd book is probably too minimal to warrant a Requester Condition.

The response from the sender is actually quite decent IMO, did she not return the credit? Did you ask for it back? Yes, she says she got it that way and so she thought it was fine, ( a very annoying excuse) but she also goes on to say that she's learned from it and is sorry you are disappointed. I've seen WAY nastier responses.

Just to be clear - crayon on the cover would still be postable. Crayon on blank pages or advertising pages would still be postable. Crayon on text pages is not.

Date Posted: 9/30/2010 3:27 AM ET
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Just to be clear - crayon on the cover would still be postable. Crayon on blank pages or advertising pages would still be postable. Crayon on text pages is not.

That's what I was going to say, too. Depending on which pages have the marks, it may not be a RWAP book after all. Writing or highlighting is not allowed on text pages, meaning it is allowed on non-text pages.



Last Edited on: 9/30/10 3:29 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/30/2010 10:38 AM ET
Member Since: 11/5/2009
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Gawd, I get really sick and tired of the "I received it that way" excuse.  It's so juvenile.  It's like a four year old saying "Johnny did it too".

Did you ask for your credit back?  I would. 

Date Posted: 10/1/2010 5:27 PM ET
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Thanks everyone!