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Subject: No more Nooks
Date Posted: 7/9/2013 4:57 PM ET
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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/board-room-thriller-barnes-noble-killing-nook-save-135630059.html

Barnes & Noble isn't going to look for a replacement for Lynch until it has finished reviewing its strategic options. Obviously William Lynch and everyone connected to the Nook at Barnes & Noble loses from the changes. Users of the Nook, what few there are, should continue to get support for existing hardware but they probably shouldn't plan on buying the next generation of the product.

 

Seems they aren't going to bother with making them much anymore.

Date Posted: 7/9/2013 5:59 PM ET
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Seems they aren't going to bother with making them much anymore.

It's been rumoured for a while that B&N was going to split the physical side from the digital side, and that they want to sell off the digital. 

They've already announed that they won't be making tablets anymore, but did say they would continue the eInk machines. They intend to have the tablets handled by a third party, which most believe will be Microsoft since they sunk so much money into B&N a few years ago just to keep it running.

There doesn't seem to be any surprise that Lynch has left, but they're using his leaving to further divide the company, making it ready to branch off and maybe sell parts of it.

Here.

B&N announced a reorganization along with Lynch’s resignation. There will be no CEO overseeing the entire company. Instead, the retail and digital side will be managed separately, with Michael Huseby replacing Lynch as CEO of Nook Media. Mitchell Klipper will remain CEO of B&N’s retail division.

 

Date Posted: 7/9/2013 7:00 PM ET
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Maybe they will just sell the NOOK trademark to some other company and be done with it. Seems the old dude is very much against ebooks/ereaders and wants them to fail now.

Date Posted: 7/9/2013 9:30 PM ET
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I looked and I'm only in for about $50 worth of ebooks from B&N right now. The rest I have read. I have a list and if my Nook goes poof, I can buy a Kindle eInk and be good. Everything but those last 30 B&N books are in my downloads folder or already in Calibre in mobi. It's more hassle than I'm willing to deal with right now to go find the plug in for B&N for Calibre. If it becomes needed, I'm good to rebuy or lend for the B&N stuff.

Date Posted: 7/10/2013 11:05 AM ET
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Users of the Nook, what few there are

I live in a big metropolitan area with a brick and mortar BN store, and NO ONE I know has a Kindle.  It's a shame that views like the one you expressed, and Amazon feeds, exists.  Maybe when Amazon owns everyone and their cut rate prices disappear, someone will finally take notice.

Date Posted: 7/10/2013 11:42 AM ET
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Then again, the NST has been a darn good piece of hardware. I don't foresee it breaking anytime soon (knocking on wood)
Date Posted: 7/10/2013 11:47 AM ET
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Maybe when Amazon owns everyone and their cut rate prices disappear, someone will finally take notice.

Amazon isn't a monopoly, and not even being close to one. Best guess is that they have about 20% share of the ebook market. If that. They're never going to 'own' everyone, especially since more and more ebook readers are chosing tablets to read from. With them, people can easily get another book app as they can the Kindle App. And when ever a store raises prices too much, it's a signal for new business to come in and undercut them. Happens all the time, over and over.

And B&N is no saint itself. Look what B&N did to Fictionwise, one of the bigger ebook stores on the internet for a while. Best prices, best deals. Couldn't beat it! But B&N bought it out, gutted it, then closed it down. Just like any other business would do. 

There are now more ebook stores than there ever were, with more formats available then ever before. I don't think we have to worry much about competition in the future. Just stupidity from the publishers. (They could, you know, sell their own books and ebooks from their own web sites and save the middleman cuts for themselves... but do you see this even dawning on them?)

As for B&N, they've been screwing up not only their regular book stores, but their ebook stores as well. The only reason they still have an ebook stores is because a couple of years ago Microsoft invested 300 million in B&N's ebook store. Otherwise they would have shut it down in 2012. The store's been rumored to be close to bankrupty for years. They just can't get their act together, which is their own fault. 

I can't feel sorry for them.

Date Posted: 7/10/2013 11:47 AM ET
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I am looking forward to seeing what the next generation eink Nook looks like. If it meets my requirements, I will buy it. I have nothing against the Nooks, but they have not been what I have been looking for, yet. Perhaps the next one will be!

I am more pleased with my Kobo Glo than my Kindle Paperwhite. I don't plan to buy the next Kindle, unless they also meet my list of requirements. The Glo is pure awesomeness, especially now that it has the tile home screen like the Aura.

Whoever releases (if anyone) a 5" lighted eink ereader, will get my money. Any other size, and it's got to meet 90% of my list.

Date Posted: 7/10/2013 12:44 PM ET
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B&N is also screwing over various authors, basically ONLY wanting the big publishers books.  Small publishers or indie authors do not get the same % cut as say someone who has Random House as their publisher.  Where as Amazon doesn't do that.

Date Posted: 7/10/2013 1:03 PM ET
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I have nook, kindle and recently succumbed to kobo and already have the small sony - so hopefully I'm covered. out of all the readers (havent' used the kobo much) the nook is my favorite to hold..feels right in my hand though I like the ease of the kindle..nook has been easy too but seems the books are higher and I get screwed with sales tax with both B&N and Amazon since I live in TX..and of course kobo tacks it on as well. I just hate trying to transfer books from the library that arent' kindle- had so many problems :-(

Date Posted: 7/12/2013 8:25 PM ET
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I'm with Sherry, don't like Amazon and their ads on the e-books so I won't be buying a kindle.  Sounds like the Kobo is a good alternate if need be but I love my Nook with glowlight and hope it lasts.

Date Posted: 7/12/2013 9:12 PM ET
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I just bought a NookHD this week and I am loving it!  Much improved over the Nook Color.

For eink, I prefer my Sony Touch. 

Date Posted: 7/12/2013 9:13 PM ET
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Karen - what ads? you can get ad free kindles. Never seen ads on mine!

Date Posted: 7/12/2013 9:28 PM ET
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There are no ads in ebooks.

All of the special offers Kindles can have the ads removed, also. I paid to remove them from my paperwhite. Our Kindle Fires have ads on the lock screens, but that's all.

I've decided I won't buy another Kindle, unless they add more memory or an SD card slot. I like the Kobo so much. The 5" mini is my favorite, it just needs a light and a card slot to make it perfect.

Date Posted: 7/26/2013 6:15 AM ET
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the fact that you have to pay to remove the ads is what irritates me...boo Amazon

Date Posted: 8/3/2013 12:54 AM ET
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I have a Nook Color and just love it. It's been a great ereader for me. I am anticipating, just like the Kobo, that I will be able to find books and tech support long after the life of my NC. When Borders went out everyone predicted the demise of the Kobo - it's still alive and kicking with satisfied customers.

And I too actually know more Nook owners than Kindle owners. I'm not sure why it would be said that there are so few of them.

But, today I just got a Kindle Fire HD for my b-day and I'm ecstatic to now have the best of both worlds. I've been having fun playing with it and plan to watch a movie later this evening. Eager to see how the HD compares to the Nook Color. I got the 16 gb - I only hve 8 gb on my Nook Color and still have ample room and haven't even used the extra SD card I bought to go with it.

All around - pleased with both of them!

ETA: I haven't really seen any ads on my Kindle but I have a button that says "offers." I clicked that and some Amazon ad popped up - not sure if that's what everyone is talking about. If so, that's not a big deal and it's contained in a drop down box.



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Date Posted: 8/3/2013 6:59 AM ET
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I just got a Nook simple touch, and it is awesome. It is close to perfect. I haven't found a way to add my own fonts without rooting, but I'll keep trying. Don't like the home screen at all, but don't have to ever go there.

Had to factory reset the Nook HD+ yesterday and then re-download all the games for the kids. That was a pain. I hope that doesn't ever happen again. So far, no problems with our Nook HD's. I have become quite the fan of the Nook lately. I hope they do make a new e-ink model, as they said they would.

Kindles are fine, but don't really do what I want them to. I can't see myself buying another one.

I scored an awesome deal on a German e-ink reader which should be here Monday....hope I like it LOL

Date Posted: 8/3/2013 11:13 AM ET
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I love the way the Nook simple touch and glo models feel in my hand - keep forgetting and swiping near the middle (which brings up all the menu stuff) but it feels nicely balanced and light. they sent me aurvey yestedray that I filled out - admitted I liked it best out of my ereaders but used the kindle more because they have better prices and more frreebies I liked..

Date Posted: 8/6/2013 7:03 AM ET
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Well my Onyx Firefly handles files like the Nook ST, and is lighted, so I'll probably sell the Nook, even though it's lighter and yes, feels great in the hand. I'll have to do some more comparisons before I decide.

Date Posted: 8/6/2013 9:26 AM ET
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admitted I liked it best out of my ereaders but used the kindle more because they have better prices and more frreebies I liked..

Calibre is your friend... I purchase off of Amazon and convert to ePub and read on the Nook. Best of all worlds.

Date Posted: 8/8/2013 7:59 AM ET
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Ugh...after several days playing with/reading on the Firefly, I have to say the Nook handles books better. I don't lose italics and formatting on the Nook! So I may keep it and sell the Firefly, even though the Firefly is lighted.

Ahh...found a setting I needed on the Firefly, so now I can use it. *phew!* I still think the Nook is faster.



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Date Posted: 8/10/2013 11:01 AM ET
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Rooted my Nook Touch last night and installed Mantano. Now reading on it is perfect. At last, an eink reader with a file tree the way I want it! Awesome.

Date Posted: 8/14/2013 5:35 PM ET
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I catapulted my Nook last night right onto the hardwood floors. Yup. Toast. When I went to Best Buy at lunch to get a new one, I decided to stay with the one I have now- Nook Simple Touch. The Kindle Paperwhite and the Nook Glowlight were both $40 more for meh features. The funny part is, it looks like I got a bad unit because it doesn't want to accept any wifis and now it's frozen. I'll take it down to B&N tomorrow and make them fix it (smile). Glad this wasn't my first Nook, but I've been happy with them so far. I did consider a Kindle several months ago but thanks to calibre, no need for that.



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Date Posted: 8/14/2013 9:47 PM ET
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Darn Nancy, that must have been awful, dropping it!

So did you get the one with the Glowlight, or the non-lighted one?

I like the Nook. Though I have been using my Onyx Firefly more, as it is lighted. Like the Nook, it keeps my books in folders and subfolders, and I LOVE THAT!!! My Nook ST is the one I take out in my purse, it's light, and thin, and if someone stole it, I would not be out big bucks since I got it used and cheap. (The Firefly is much thicker and heavier and irreplaceable--because I can't afford to replace it if something happens to it).

I do hope there will be a new HD eink Nook reader this year or next. With improved lighted.

Date Posted: 8/14/2013 10:03 PM ET
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Bought another Simple Touch. No glowlight. $79.

Hubby got the wifi working and I'm all reloaded now. I still have to get books on the right shelves. In all the dance- B&N purchases, Amazon purchases, Kobo, Fictionwise, some grey area ones- I only lost 4 books. That's absolutely amazing! Pure luck that I did a flash drive back up a month ago and then when I had to reinstall ADE on the desktop earlier thsi week, I transferred the files to there as well.

First the desktop crashes 10 days ago, now the Nook. That could have been real ugly. The Ipod is moving very slow as well and things come in threes so that's my next project- to get the Itunes off of the old hard drive and installed before the pod dies.