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Subject: Is it OK to reuse an old made up ISBN#?
Date Posted: 8/8/2008 1:14 PM ET
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Hello guys,

I have a book without an ISBN#. I know I'm supposed to use a "Post without an ISBN" link but when I search for the book by title I find an old listing that someone has used in the past and there are 2 wishers for it. Can I just go to this listing with an old made up ISBN# and click the button "Post this book" or do I HAVE to post it from scratch with essentially new ISBN#? I hope someone could help me on this.

 

 

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 1:26 PM ET
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You need to follow the post without an ISBN guidelines for this book.  The people wishing may want the specific edition and not just any version.  They may not be pleased to receive a different edition and would be well within their rights to mark your book RWAP since it's not what they requested.  You would lose both the book and your credit in this case.

You can also post your book in the Book Bazaar and let people know you have a copy available.

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 1:37 PM ET
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From the Help Center:

 

 

Because the listing was created manually, the listing represents only one specific copy of the book, and the book is not linked to any other item in the database, even if the titles are the same.  This means that:

  • "Short ISBNs"
    • cannot be reused to post another copy of that book (the Post Books field will accept only 10 or 13 digit ISBNs)
      • this is because not all the information the first poster provided about the book may match


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Date Posted: 8/8/2008 1:46 PM ET
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I can almost always find a ISBN for books on Amazon if they don't have one.

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 2:36 PM ET
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I can almost always find a ISBN for books on Amazon if they don't have one. - Yeah, but you can't use them here. The ISBN on the book, plus the Title, Author and Binding Type MUST match what the system sshows or you cannot post a book by that ISBN.

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 2:37 PM ET
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You may be able to find an ISBN for a book on Amazon if your copy doesn't have one, but that's not the point.  If the copy you  have in your possession does not have an ISBN on it, then it must be listed as a book without an ISBN.  It is against the PBS rules to post a book without an ISBN by taking one from another copy of the same book. 

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 4:16 PM ET
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I didn't mean type a name in & pick a book. I do extensive research before I list a book if it's without a ISBN (only 2 so far).

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 4:18 PM ET
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If you happened to receive a "short ISBN" book and would like to repost it, you can reuse that listing, though, since it's the same copy.

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 4:22 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/8/2008 4:33 PM ET
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Erin, it doesn't matter how much research you do, if the copy in your hand does not have an ISBN printed on it, then you cannot take one from another copy of the same book.  I appreciate that you're being thorough, but the rules are clear on this point and circumventing them is likely to cause you a problem down the line.  To be safe, you need to post these without an ISBN or if that's too much trouble, then post in the Book Bazaar. Personally, I find it easier to just offer non-ISBN books as part of a deal, but that's up to you.

 

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 6:59 PM ET
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I don't think some people realize that they are unlikely to receive those WL books for one w/o an ISBN.  I didn't when I first joined.  Although sometimes with older oop/htf books there's no ISBN version to WL. 

I would post it w/o an ISBN then tag the ones that are WL w/"posted under ISBN#xxx" and hopefully they'll WL the book.

Or you could post which books you have in the book bazaar.

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 7:43 PM ET
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I'm playing devil's advocate here now....so what if all of the information matched your book?  I know that not everyone may be diligent about checking that but if someone did and it matched exactly, why couldn't you use the short number instead of creating a new listing?

Date Posted: 8/8/2008 8:44 PM ET
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Leslie, Other than because the rules say you can't, no reason. But, if you don't mind breaking the rules, then that is upto you (you as in a generic person breaking the rules, not you personally, since I know you aren't meaning you are going to). Not meaning to be snotty, just playing the devil's advocate's opponent. What if it all matches, why can't you use it? Only because you respect the rules laid out on the site.  :)  (Hopefully this answer is taken in the spirit it was intended, with no malice attached at all, please :)



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Date Posted: 8/8/2008 11:43 PM ET
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I didn't mean type a name in & pick a book. I do extensive research before I list a book if it's without a ISBN (only 2 so far). -

Even if you do extensive research and believe that everything matches, if the receiver does not find an ISBN on the book, they can mark it RWP - wrong book and they would be correct in doing so. Most books without ISBNs are older prints and easily noticeable so many people would look for the correct ISBN on them. 

I would highly recommend if you have any books on your shelf that are posted like this, take them off and post them correctly. No reason to risk sending a book and having to give the credit back (which the rules state should be done on a RWP- wrong book).

Date Posted: 8/9/2008 8:42 AM ET
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no malice taken here Sherry....was just wondering!  I just try to avoid having books that don't have ISBN and save myself the hassle!