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Subject: OK - I'm whining. Mailing out 11 in the next week (maybe)!
Date Posted: 7/1/2009 9:38 PM ET
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I've searched & I don't think there's any work around, but...question for the smart helpful folks around here! Here's the scenario: I posted a stack of books on the quick-post page (you type the ISBN, up pops the book). I confess, I'd been holding back some books I knew were wishlisted for budget reasons - I can only spend about $75 a month on postage and buying books when I get tempted into 1/2Price or other UBS. So out of the rather random grouping of 20 books I posted today, 11 are WL's!! That's approx. 40% of my budget I'm spending on DAY 1 (well, Week 1) of my budget. I know this is great for those waiting in line and yes, I get a credit, but the hassle of mailing all these out (potentially - most are 48 hour holds for member to confirm) this week makes me go: "EEK. I didn't mean to do that!" But the stack I grabbed was random and it wasn't where I'd been stacking those WL titles. But 11 out of 20?!

So is there an easy way other than pulling up each isbn on its main book page to see whether there's a wish list line? And couldn't they put the WL info on that quick-post page so people like me (whiners!) who currently are unknowingly posting so many in-demand titles can be a little forewarned? I also wouldn't mind seeing how many copies are in the system without putting them on my reminder list, too - too much clicking.

 

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 9:52 PM ET
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Michelle, when I've been low on funds I will put my account on Vacation Hold, post the books  to my list of TBR (To be Read) list and see how many are WL books and then delete from there I will only post those books that I can afford to send.

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 10:07 PM ET
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I guess that's as many clicks as the quick-post page, and again - just whining! I'll have a bunch of credits to spend here, so I just need to resist the allure of the UBS's. I knew I could see that info on the reminder list, but wanted to keep that books I haven't read but am not ready to order. TBR makes more sense...as I'll know for the most part which ones really are TBR - I hope!

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 10:21 PM ET
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Michelle - if you're low on funds, or just reached your limit for the week/month, etc., post your books to your reminder list.  You can do this by just posting at the SEARCH window at the top of each page.  This will do two things for you:

1.  It will let you know how many are in the system, and if you want to post them then you can post from the RL'

2.  If there are no books already posted, it will let you know that also, and how many people are on the WL for that book and if there are only a few or only 1 that wants the book, you can post it right away, and if there are 50 or 100, then you can wait a while to post that particular book. After you've posted, then you just have to remember to remove the book from your RL.    These books are then added to your RL, and when you want to post, again you can post from the RL. 

Pat

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 10:25 PM ET
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I always post one ISBN at a time, it really isn't that much more work because you have to type each ISBN anyway.  When you're on the book info page the post button is right there.  Much as I love posting WL books I wouldn't want to post 11 at one time!

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 11:20 PM ET
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I use the advanced search feature and choose WL books, then type in the title or ISBN there.  It lets you know how many people, if any, are wishing for that specific book.  It's a little more time consuming, but it helps with controlling the postage budget. 

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 11:24 PM ET
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I keep all my books on my tbr pile until I've read it and am ready to post it. If it's wishlisted, there will be a W next to the book, or a Wa, meaning it's on automatic wishlist. If I can't afford to mail it out, then I know to put it aside and keep it on tbr until I am ready.

Date Posted: 7/1/2009 11:25 PM ET
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Oh, and in addition to above, then you don't have to enter isbn's if you keep all your books on your tbr to begin with. All you have to do is go to your tbr pile and click "post book" for all the books you're ready to post.

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 6:09 AM ET
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I think I'm going to use the TBR list in the future...But I have like 400 books I'm trying to move out to make room for more & don't really want to enter them in all at once. For next month's batch, I'll try TBR...THANKS Again!

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Date Posted: 7/2/2009 8:44 AM ET
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You could check the Club Wish List.  Just type in the title or the author and that'll show you if anyone wants it.  And, once you're at that page you van just type in the next book title and click on the type of book it is.  You're able to verify the ISBN to make sure it's your ISBN too.

I just double checked.  In Search there's Club Wish List.  Click on that and you have a keyword search or an alpha search.  I did an alpha search.  You get a generic listing beginning with the first book with that initial.  On the left is a box for the title, author.  In this case I typed in the title and checked that it was a paperback.

The book popped up and it has in this case a picture, the title, the author and the ISBN, book type, Publication Date and how many members are wishing the book.  That's on the left.  On the right is Post This Book; +Reminder +Wish, Buy from Amazon, +Tag, +Note, and a more options button. 

So from there you can post the book or under the more options is the button to add it to your TBR.  Whichever you do the book is posted in PBS.  I have my TBR pile sorted by Wish - that way I know the book is on the wish list and I can read and post if I need a credit or two.

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 8:55 AM ET
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I remember those days after first joining PBS when all the books I had were ones I read and was listing...it was a pain, but also good to know if what I was posting was wishlisted. I did it the long way and just typed in each ISBN and then looked at the book details to see if it was wished for, and if it was already available, added to my Reminder list to see how many were in system. It's not that big a deal if you're only posting a couple dozen at a time. I did hundreds when I first joined. LOL

Nowadays, almost everything I post here is something I got here, and when I mark a book received I just add it to my TBR by leaving the check box to do so, and then post the book right from there when I'm done with it. On the odd occasion where I get books other places (twice a year at FOL sales, occasionally ordering a few) I just add them to by TBR immediately if I plan to read them, or do the whole process one at a time by entering ISBN, but these days that's usually just a few books at a time.

I really discourage people from searching by title and author rather than ISBN if your goal is to post books. What Geri says does work, but I think the temptation for some people to post a book that's wishlisted in another ISBN is too great if your version is NOT wishlisted.. To me it just makes more sense to search by the ISBN that *you have* and deal with that ISBN only. I've gotten a few wrong books from new folks who apparently searched by title and clicked "post this book" without verifying format or ISBN...got paperbacks when I wanted HC, and totally different ISBN. Nothing bugs me more! LOL

Cheryl

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 9:10 AM ET
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I just log all my books on the TBR and when I'm ready to post them I know if they are WL or not. 

What you could do is put your account on vacation-post the books you want to post-then check out your Bookshelf.  It'll show a little W if the book is WL.  If there's too many WL books then delete a few before you come off hold.  If your account is on hold it won't offer WL books you post to the system yet.  They go on your shelf on hold. That might be the fastest way. 

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 10:39 AM ET
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I log all my books on to TBR as well....  it's very easy to use and then post from...  a lot of times the W it shows is what helps me to decide my next book... unless it's just something I'm dying to read, I generally read a WL book first so that I can share it with someone else...  I am not at all a book hoarder... well, that's not exactly true...  I hoarde books that I have not yet read...  once I read them they are posted and shared....  I'm not a re-reader....

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 12:49 PM ET
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I bought a box of vampire books at a yard sale and made the mistake of posting them all at once.  I had to wrap and mail 13 books.  It took me forever, so my account is on hold now 'cause I needed a break.

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 1:48 PM ET
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I had this problem back when I first started. I had tons of books but kept getting so many wished that I had to stop posting every so often in order to catch up.

I know this programmer who built me a little website that let me search the club wishlist. I just had to enter a list of ISBNs and it would open up a page that had the ISBN, the title and a Yes/No as to whether the book was wishlisted or not.

Then, he showed me how to load in the list using the Book List Import Bookmark. In case you didn't know, that bookmark lets you load a list of books directly to your bookshelf, wishlist, reminder list, TBR or BIR list. I'd load them to the TBR list so I could keep track of the ones with the big red W next to them.

It really helped out when I needed it.

Date Posted: 7/2/2009 2:47 PM ET
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Tim, are you talking about using the "Post a File of ISBNs" option? If so, when you do this, do you get an option of where to post them (to your shelf, to your TBR, to your reminder? That might work for me...but the front page of that method asks if they're all PBS-condition, so I thought they might auto-magically go to the shelf. Thanks in advance!

And thanks to all the other responses...Glad to know there are a variety of options to explore before I wreck myself with mail-outs!



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Date Posted: 7/2/2009 3:02 PM ET
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No, I haven't tried that one. The Book List Import Bookmark that I mentioned is a little known feature of PBS. If you look at the bottom of the page where all the links are, on the left side, there's one called "Member Tools". If you click on that, the bookmark is the first of the tools listed on the next page.

Just so you know, the bookmark tool is a bit tempermental. It won't list ISBNs with an X in them or if they don't have a blank line between them. I've managed to eliminate the X problem on mine and can tell you how to do it. As to the other problem, the tool he built automatically put in a blank line, so I never had to worry about it.

Date Posted: 8/13/2009 9:24 PM ET
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Okay Tim, give us your secret  (please) - - how did you eliminate the X problem with the Book List Import Bookmark?

TIA

Date Posted: 8/13/2009 10:16 PM ET
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Date Posted: 8/13/2009 10:18 PM ET
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I'm sitting on several WL books because of budget constraints.  I post all my books to my RL list and that way I can see if they're WLd and how many people are wishing for them.  If it's only a few I'll go ahead and post the book, but if it's over 20 I'll hold the book, and check it every week or so to see how the list is going down.  That way I don't have all those WLd books going out along with the books that are requested on my BL.  HTH.  Pat

Date Posted: 8/14/2009 6:56 AM ET
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Michelle,

You've received some great advice.  My other suggestion is to try to combine postage when you can to stretch the budget when you need to. I've had succes with looking at wishlists after posting a book FIFO and then posting others directly to that person.  I've also posted in the wishlist threads in the genre forums.  Often someone will want a large chunk of the books in that genre.  You can even specify that you are looking for orders of multiples only.  Typically if I am posting one WL book or several in one genre they go FIFO.  If I have a bunch I'm sitting on b/c of money I try the genre forums. 

Best of Luck!

 

Date Posted: 8/14/2009 7:06 AM ET
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I've been a member for just over a month, and I'm #41 on the list of most swaps in the last 30 days!  It has been overwhelming.  Fortunately, I'm a teacher, so I've been at home this month with time to wrap books and take them to the post office.

I did check whether my books were wishlisted before I posted them, and about 30 out of the 140+ books I originally posted were WL.  So I expected that these would go out quickly.  However, another 50 non-WL books were requested in the following weeks.  It's impossible to tell from the numbers of copies in the system how fast your book is going to be requested.  I still have books on my shelf that were the only copy in the system, while ones that had 30 or more copies when I originally listed them are long gone.   I'm looking forward to the ability to estimate when a book may be requested.  Please, PBS, give us this functionality!

I'm sitting on a pile of WL books I haven't posted in order to give my book budget a chance to recover.  Fortunately, I started out with a pile of postage stamps of various denominations (about $40 total), so it wasn't as painful as it could have been.  And a few people ordered more than one book at a time.

It's hard for me to hold back my WL books because I like making readers happy by sending the books they want.  But money for postage is a limiting factor.

Ronda (RONDA) - ,
Date Posted: 8/14/2009 1:17 PM ET
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I think it might be a few less clicks if you put yourself on Vacation hold,  post the books to your bookshelf, then go to your bookshelf and check the books you don't wish to have on your list and use the action button on the top right to put them on your bookshelf on hold.  This seems to be the only option that allows you to post/hold multiple books at the same time. The other options mostly seem to have a seperate button per book.   The drop down on the top right on your bookshelf allows you to view which books you have on your shelf vs on hold.  You can also sort your bookshelf by date posted to assist in seeing the books you just added.

however you decide to do it,  it is probably a good idea to be on vacation hold while you do the process in case you accidentally post wish list books to your shelf and they immediately get picked up.

You can also use the genre forums to try to get orders of multiple books. Then if they are wishlisted, you post them directly to the person who wants multiple books.  This does by-pass FIFO, but sending multiple books at the same time saves a lot of money on mailing.



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Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 8/14/2009 4:58 PM ET
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Ronda has a good suggestion.  I put over 700 books on my TBR.  Just brought a pile a day to the computer and entered the ISBN's.  Now I have my TBS sorted by Wish so I can see what's a WL book immediately.  You can search for titles or authors at any time.  Of course you can change the way you have the TBR sorted too.