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Subject: This is odd
Date Posted: 6/14/2008 11:50 AM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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I requested a book from the system and got the usual message about waiting for member to accept.  So I decided to check out the other books on the member's bookshelf only to find there are no books listed.  I'm assuming that the book I requested is the only book he has.  That worries me a little because there are no books on his WL either.  Since I'm requesting a common book - I'm not so worried about getting it, but it seems odd.  Bet it goes to another member after 5 days???

Date Posted: 6/14/2008 11:56 AM ET
Member Since: 6/4/2007
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I hate this sort of situation.  Yeah, usually that means an inactive member whose books have been picked off one by one by the request-response deadline.  Don't totally count it out, though.  I requested a book from someone with no wishes and only five books on their shelf posted in early '07 and still had the request accepted and mailed, so there is hope.  Luckily you ordered a book of which there are more in the system, so even if you do have to wait (and that's where my money is) you'll still get your book. 

I requested a book of which there were 6 in the system a couple of weeks ago.  After the first request timed out the second went the distance but was accepted, then never mailed, so onto the third and it's been about 21 days since my first request.  Waiting for this one to time out, too.  Ugh...

Date Posted: 6/14/2008 12:09 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Well like Jim said-you could still get the book but you're probably right about them being inactive,  Usually active people with little/to no books posted at least have a WL. They just buy credits or post WL books. 

Don't cancel the transaction though. When you reorder it'll just give it to the same person.  Let it time out and get their last book out of the system.  Hopefully the next person will respond pretty quickly.

Date Posted: 6/14/2008 3:53 PM ET
Member Since: 12/9/2007
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This is what I figured and it's really no biggie.  Lots of these books in the system.  I was just wondering while looking at the little info I could see about him whether having "numbers" that a sender and receiver has would help as a motivator to be "on time" and active.  Not feedback like eBay, but numbers...like in the last 30 days I've received 18 books and sent out 18 with 5 pending to go out.   All time is 39 received and 70 sent out.  As you can see I haven't been a member for that long.  I wouldn't discriminate against anyone for being new.  And it shouldn't be used as a reason not to order from someone.  Just what the bare facts history about activity would be nice and might help get the lazy ones to comply more.  Any thoughts?



Last Edited on: 6/14/08 3:54 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/14/2008 5:35 PM ET
Member Since: 2/2/2006
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We kick this around from time to time. Some of us would like for an account to become inactive automatically and locked (not canceled, just locked) if the person hasn't signed in for a period of time, say 1 month or 2 months.

We do have that area of a person's profile - if they have created a profile - that tells the last time they've signed on - if they've set it to show that information.

I'm not an active trader. I send out WL books only, so I don't have a bookshelf, and I buy a credit if I need to. I've probably sent out only about 150 books in over 2 years. I don't receive many books, either. I'm a pretty active member, though, and I'm on and off this site 6 times a day.

You never know, though. I just received a book - quickly and in excellent condition -  from a person with no WL and I think 2 books on their shelf. They're not very active with trading but come here for the forums. I figured it would time out, but I received the book.

Edited for typo



Last Edited on: 6/14/08 5:36 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/14/2008 8:04 PM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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I think it would be nice if there was something in the system to put an account on hold if they haven't signed in within the last month. Maybe a requirement to log in once a month.  It only takes a few seconds to log in and you wouldn't have to do anything.  The log-in would just be an "I'm aware I still have a PBS account".  This would probably do a lot to help weedout all the inactives.  It would cut back on the number of times WL books and book requests time out.

Date Posted: 6/15/2008 11:20 PM ET
Member Since: 1/13/2005
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In the past I haven't been really thrilled with this idea, as I go through periods when I have time to log in and browse the book s and the forums, and other times when I don't have time to do anything but respond to wishlist offers and book requests.  I am betting I'm not the only person like this, and if I had a period when I was busy and didn't get requests for a while, my account would be locked and I would have to go through the hassle of re-opening it when I really didn't have the time to mess with it.  But, I was thinking, if the system emailed me with a link saying "follow this link to keep your shelf active and/or re-activate your shelf", I would have the time to do that, and if I didn't, I wouldn't mind my shelf being on hold until I did.