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Subject: Outlander
Date Posted: 2/2/2012 4:04 PM ET
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At the risk of being thrown out of this forum forever I have to say that I did not find this novel to be all that and a bag of chips.  I "read" it in audio and had it been narrated by someone other than Davina Porter I would have dumped it long ago.  She is superb (possibly the best narrator I've ever listen to) and does all the accents perfectly. I caught myself thinking in a Scottish accent.  Back to the story - badly in need of an editor.  It went on and on and I thought 'will this ever be over?' only to find that I need to read the next 2 or 3 to get the full story.  No thank you.  Does anyone have a link to a really good synopsis?

The story is totally not to be believed.  I'm willing to give a certain amount of believability, time travel and all but, come on, how many times can one woman get herself into situations that require being rescued by a 'knight in shining armor'?  The one that finally put me over the edge was the wolves.  Talk about a wallbanger - if the audio version had not been on my iPAD it would have hit the wall.

OK, I've vented.  If I must I will go quietly.



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Date Posted: 2/2/2012 4:11 PM ET
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I don't remember wolves...what about the wolves?  OK, I googled it.  I must have forgotten that part, LOL.



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Date Posted: 2/2/2012 4:28 PM ET
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It's OK, you don't have to like Outlander.   I bet a lot of people either love it OR hate it.  

I have something almost as shocking to admit as not liking Outlander, I've never read any books by Jane Austen.surprise  So don't feel so bad!  LOL



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Date Posted: 2/2/2012 4:42 PM ET
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You're not alone Donna. I did not like Outlander either. IMHO it was heavy on the romance and light on the history.

Everyone is unique and it would be very odd if we all liked the same books  :-)

I like it when my f2f book club has a book that half of us loved and half of us hated. The discussion is much more interesting and the different POVs and perspectives enhance the story and the discussion.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 5:10 PM ET
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I know we all have different tastes but after reading all the rave reviews I expected to totally love it.  I kept listening thinking it's going to get good but after 31+ hours I really don't care about Jamie and Claire.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 5:35 PM ET
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I am very neutral on it, the storyline was ok, but nothing to write home about. After I read the second one and it didn't get any better, I decided I'm not interested in completing the series. 

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 5:38 PM ET
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It is perfectly OK not to like a book even if everyone loved it. Most times I'm the odd one out. Never feel sorry for having to say it, at least not here. We won't throw objects at you, I promise cheeky

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 6:15 PM ET
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Donna, a lot of people hated the wolves part,  I thought it could have been edited ot and not hurt the story. 

I think they should hire me to edit the books. cheeky  Cause I know where all the good bits are and the bridges.  The thing with Gabaldon, is that she will put something in one book that fits the scene only to make that part important in another book.   I often wonder if some one could pick up, say Voyager, and not be completely lost.

It isn't wrong not liking Outlander it just didn't speak to you that's okay.   Now had you come in here and made a sweeping statement like:  All you people that liked Outlander have no taste, and you suck! angry  Then you would have had a fight on your hands!  That is why I like the H/F forum, we respect each others opinions.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 7:44 PM ET
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Donna ... what everyone else said ... AND ... all that and a bag of chips ... ?? love that expression! Made me laugh.

As long as it's True Confessions time, I loved & will not apologize for loving Pillars of the Earth, by Ken Follett. 

RE: Outlander ... my wonder is if something gets lost by having to listen to it, waiting ... as you say ... for something substantive to develop. The OTT romance & constant scrapes & rescues were all "how fun, le sigh" moments while reading it; but I can sure see how that might have gotten quite tiresome listening to.

Kelly



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Date Posted: 2/2/2012 7:49 PM ET
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Kelly:  I never realized POTE was on the "those are fightin' words" list!  I loved it too.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 8:23 PM ET
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*hangs head in shame*

I loathed loathed loathed POTE crying

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 8:27 PM ET
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I didn't loath POTE  I didn't care for WWOE.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 11:23 PM ET
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I didn't like WWOE either.  I wish the author had just left it at the first one.

Date Posted: 2/2/2012 11:33 PM ET
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I was so engrossed with Outlander the first time, I was oblivious to flaws.  But if it's not your cuppa, and you don't get engrossed, I can certainly see why those flaws would be even more glaring when you went in with high expectations from all the hype.  I've re-read it three times and enjoyed each, and will no doubt do so several more times over the years.  But I'm not oblivious anymore. 

I've never read Pillars.  10 years ago, before I knew much about the medieval period, I might have liked it.  But I KNOW it would be a wall banger now.  Doubly so after watching the mini-series (to give it a chance to change my mind).



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Date Posted: 2/3/2012 9:20 AM ET
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I loved Outlander and the following books, but I have find myself not wanting to go back and re-read them, despite my first impessions.  And yes, I did want to hit Claire upside the head for her stupidity.  I guess Jamie just made up for what she lacked cheeky

 

And I loved POTE, too.  But I have to agree, there are those who either love them or hate them - there never seems to a middle ground with these books.



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Date Posted: 2/3/2012 10:05 AM ET
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Lover of Outlander here but I agree about the wolves scene.  Couldn't help but think "If only ol' Clare would get eaten by those wolves, then maybe I could have Jamie?" wink

 

Haven't read POTE yet but it is on my list for this year.  I attempted it once about 2 years ago.  Was 100 pages in and it hadn't grabbed my interest so I put it aside. 

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 10:42 AM ET
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I read the Outlander books before I was very active in online reader discussions so I missed the hype ahead of time. I did love them (and Jamie!) at the time, but I suspect I'd have a more difficult on the second go around - Gabaldon really does natter on too much and could use an editor with a very big red pencil. I know I've mentioned this elsewhere here, but I can't even handle reading her blog anymore. She just goes on endlessly about virtually nothing.

Sharla, that was the case with me and Pillars. I'd been reading Penman and Chadwick and then I heard how great and wonderful and accurate Pillars was and was seriously disappointed. Neither here nor there, we all have different opinions and react to books different ways and I like how we're able to openly discuss them here without fear of flying objects. I have a friend at Goodreads who doesn't blog, nor does she review anywhere, yet when she was openly discussing her dissatisfaction with a book on her GR updates, she found herself unfriended by a blogger who is very BFF friends with the author of that book. Bad sport IMHO.

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 12:44 PM ET
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I read all of the Outlander series.  I was good until Breanna....just could not like the girl....and had difficulty reading the last couple of books.  I have heard so much about how well the narrator is for this book that I bought the audio version. It has not been any where near as good as the book.  The story loses a lot as I am trying to listen to it.  The first 3-4 books I could not put down.  

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 12:46 PM ET
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I've not listened to the audio books, but is it weird having a woman do the voice for Jamie?

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 1:06 PM ET
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I have something almost as shocking to admit as not liking Outlander, I've never read any books by Jane Austen.wink

I haven't either, read any Austen, that is.  I could care less. 

I have collected all the books in the three Gabaldan series and am waiting for a lull in my life to start them.  I usually like this type of book because it is such a departure from my everyday existence.  And that is what I love about fiction.  An escape.  I just peeled through 13 of the Virgin River series in 10 days.  Now that was a great escape!  But I need something meatier most of the time.  I have also been distracted by a couple of Zombie books (Autumn, World War Z).  Now that is an escape.

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 1:26 PM ET
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koose,  Davina Porter is amazing and she really does sound male.  Just an FYI  Porters husband is Scots and I think that is why she nails the accent so well, besides being an incredible voice actress.

I have them all on audio and I will just flip one on while I am dusting or straightening up.

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 3:11 PM ET
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I agree with Letty 100% - Davina Porter is perfection as a narrator.  She does the accent (male and female) perfectly.  You can tell who is speaking at all times with no confusion.  As I said in my opening post if it had not been for her narration I would have given up on it long ago.

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 5:20 PM ET
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I have them all on audio and I will just flip one on while I am dusting or straightening up.

Letty -- Come to my house. I have enough housework for you to listen to the entire series!!

Date Posted: 2/3/2012 5:28 PM ET
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Alas Deb so do I. 

You know that song by Annie Lennox, I need a man?  Well I need a maid!

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Date Posted: 2/3/2012 10:25 PM ET
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It's ok to not like Outlander cuz now when Jaimie comes to life there will be one less person to get in my way!  That's right Y'all better stand aside!

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